▲ 1330 ▼ Ohio voters enshrine abortion access in constitution in latest statewide win for reproductive rights (apnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by negativenull@lemm.ee to c/news@lemmy.world 124 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] paprika@infosec.pub 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) The result from this vote tells me that Ohio isn't red out of pure population ideology but because of unfair voting districts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago It's more complicated than that. Gerrymandering doesn't affect state-level votes like governor or president. I think what this reveals more is that there are a non-trivial amount of voters who generally support Republicans but who will support abortion rights when asked specifically about them, even if they wouldn't otherwise vote for a Democrat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Just wait until you dig into the absolute fuckery the Ohio GOP has pulled to in order to keep those districts unfair. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ohio used to be widely known as a swing state, even with the fucked up gerrymandering. It's been pretty solidly red since Trump was in office, but historically Ohio was pretty purple before that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gerrymandering doesn’t impact statewide races, only house races. They still went for Trump and elected a Republican senator. They also have a Republican governor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* Ok, but I said before Trump was in office, Ohio was historically pretty purple. In the 50 years before Trump, Ohio voted for the Democratic presidential candidate 5 times, and the Republican candidate 5 times. In the same time frame, the state has had 3 Democratic governors to 4 Republican. The state has largely been split between the two parties for a vast majority of it's history. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't care what people want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago they care about what a fascistic minority wants that could help them get into power permalink fedilink source parent [–] jasory@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It depends on the location. Ohio isn't really that conservative, it's mostly lolbertarian meth towns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago That's because Ohio is just western Connecticut. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago More than anything, when will they realize that the game is up? We know they don't actually care about children. We know they just want to make women second class citizens again. We aren't idiots permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) The result from this vote tells me that Ohio isn't red out of pure population ideology but because of unfair voting districts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago It's more complicated than that. Gerrymandering doesn't affect state-level votes like governor or president. I think what this reveals more is that there are a non-trivial amount of voters who generally support Republicans but who will support abortion rights when asked specifically about them, even if they wouldn't otherwise vote for a Democrat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Just wait until you dig into the absolute fuckery the Ohio GOP has pulled to in order to keep those districts unfair. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ohio used to be widely known as a swing state, even with the fucked up gerrymandering. It's been pretty solidly red since Trump was in office, but historically Ohio was pretty purple before that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gerrymandering doesn’t impact statewide races, only house races. They still went for Trump and elected a Republican senator. They also have a Republican governor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* Ok, but I said before Trump was in office, Ohio was historically pretty purple. In the 50 years before Trump, Ohio voted for the Democratic presidential candidate 5 times, and the Republican candidate 5 times. In the same time frame, the state has had 3 Democratic governors to 4 Republican. The state has largely been split between the two parties for a vast majority of it's history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago It's more complicated than that. Gerrymandering doesn't affect state-level votes like governor or president. I think what this reveals more is that there are a non-trivial amount of voters who generally support Republicans but who will support abortion rights when asked specifically about them, even if they wouldn't otherwise vote for a Democrat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Just wait until you dig into the absolute fuckery the Ohio GOP has pulled to in order to keep those districts unfair. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ohio used to be widely known as a swing state, even with the fucked up gerrymandering. It's been pretty solidly red since Trump was in office, but historically Ohio was pretty purple before that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gerrymandering doesn’t impact statewide races, only house races. They still went for Trump and elected a Republican senator. They also have a Republican governor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* Ok, but I said before Trump was in office, Ohio was historically pretty purple. In the 50 years before Trump, Ohio voted for the Democratic presidential candidate 5 times, and the Republican candidate 5 times. In the same time frame, the state has had 3 Democratic governors to 4 Republican. The state has largely been split between the two parties for a vast majority of it's history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gerrymandering doesn’t impact statewide races, only house races. They still went for Trump and elected a Republican senator. They also have a Republican governor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* Ok, but I said before Trump was in office, Ohio was historically pretty purple. In the 50 years before Trump, Ohio voted for the Democratic presidential candidate 5 times, and the Republican candidate 5 times. In the same time frame, the state has had 3 Democratic governors to 4 Republican. The state has largely been split between the two parties for a vast majority of it's history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* Ok, but I said before Trump was in office, Ohio was historically pretty purple. In the 50 years before Trump, Ohio voted for the Democratic presidential candidate 5 times, and the Republican candidate 5 times. In the same time frame, the state has had 3 Democratic governors to 4 Republican. The state has largely been split between the two parties for a vast majority of it's history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) They don't care what people want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago they care about what a fascistic minority wants that could help them get into power permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago they care about what a fascistic minority wants that could help them get into power permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jasory@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It depends on the location. Ohio isn't really that conservative, it's mostly lolbertarian meth towns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago That's because Ohio is just western Connecticut. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago That's because Ohio is just western Connecticut. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago More than anything, when will they realize that the game is up? We know they don't actually care about children. We know they just want to make women second class citizens again. We aren't idiots permalink fedilink source parent