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Zoom terms of service now require you to allow AI to train on ALL your data (nitter.net)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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Be careful with Zoom guys.

Edit: It seems that they have updated their TOS , however I will never trust a company like this , remember with all of this AI going around right now Data is the new oil.

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[–] -3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

On the thread about this on HN someone posted a link stating Jitsi has the same policy as Zoom regarding this matter. It’s equally bad.

Edit: I stand corrected, apologies. It’s not the same policy as zoom.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    https://www.8x8.com/terms-and-conditions/privacy-policy

    It doesn't seem the ToS supports your claim. Can you provide a link?

    Seems they may ask to use the meeting data if you record or livestream, but not otherwise. So not equally bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    from “4. Your Content” (emphasis mine)

    You give 8×8 (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that Your content works better with the Service), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display, and distribute such content solely for the limited purpose of operating and enabling the Service to work as intended for You and for no other purposes.

    Despite the good intention from the company, this sounds like lawyer-speak that legally protect them if they decided to use your content to train ML model. IANAL though.

    But it’s not the same as Zooms policy. I agree. I stand corrected and edited my original comment.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm talking about using a self-hosted Jitsi instance. That one will work on a completely air-gapped network so you don't have to share data with them.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    Sadly incorrect.

    Louis Rossman has a video about zoom trying to sponsor him, Jitsi request only what is needed for functionality only and there terms of service mention that explicitly. How do you blur a background without detecting a face etc.

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