Redrum714 comments on We've decided to invest in squirt guns to deal with the forest fire problem

We've decided to invest in squirt guns to deal with the forest fire problem (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hauling 50 pounds of groceries a couple miles is not enjoyable for the vast majority of people.

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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

You need to rethink how cities are designed for walking to grocery stores to work. It won't in the US, because everything is designed for cars. But if a city is designed right, you won't need to go miles before finding a grocery store. You can take a cargo bike to haul more things at a time. You can stop by shops on your way home from work to pick up a couple things and stick them in a backpack.

Cities designed correctly reduce the burden on those walking or biking between points of interest that are no more than 1 or 2 miles away.

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That’s nice and all, but the vast majority of people would still overwhelmingly choose the ease and comfort of a car when getting groceries over a bike.

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[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

... In the US.

FTFY

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

No.. the entire civilized world

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[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Nah, I've lived in two places now where walking or cycling to get your groceries (or, gasp, just having them delivered) is way nicer. Because it sucks to drive and the store is just around the corner.

Y'all just don't have a clue what you're missing.

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You do realize people live outside of dense cities right?

Talk about not having a clue lol

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[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

This isn't about rural areas. Obviously no one's expecting people on farms to go walk to a nearby store. But most people aren't on farms.

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I’m not talking about farms, I’m talking about suburbs where most people do live.

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[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Then I go back to my previous statement because you've clearly never seen a nice little dutch suburb :)

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I’ve seen plenty of them. You’ve clearly never seen and/or can’t comprehend how spread out many countries are.

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[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

You do know that much of the US was built on the rail network and plenty of cities had transit systems that were the envy of the world until they decided against those in favor of the car and bulldozed city centers for parking? You're making it seem like this is impossible when it used to be the standard.

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

And cars are still exponentially more convenient than back then. So yea the chances of people willfully going back to that is practically impossible.

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[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

... In the US.

(And it's not because it wouldn't work ;))

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

If you think that’s just the US you are completely oblivious to the world around you.

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[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago*

Not just the US. But if think the rest of the world is as disinterested in making a change as you are, you'd (thankfully) also be very wrong.

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[–] Redfugee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Most people live in cities.

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[–] Redfugee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

Speak for yourself.

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Since I can walk there a few times a week, I tend to buy less grocceries at a time. The weight limit helps me budget for the week by preventing me from buying more than I need.

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[–] EnderofGames@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That sounds like a solution, and I'm glad you found it and it works for you, but walking and purchasing multiple times a week instead of once every two weeks is a much larger time commitment. This also really only works if you are buying for yourself and no one else.

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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You need to rethink how cities are designed for walking to grocery stores to work. It won't in the US, because everything is designed for cars. But if a city is designed right, you won't need to go miles before finding a grocery store. You can take a cargo bike to haul more things at a time. You can stop by shops on your way home from work to pick up a couple things and stick them in a backpack.

Cities designed correctly reduce the burden on those walking or biking between points of interest that are no more than 1 or 2 miles away.

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

How do you manage to keep produce fresh for 2 whole weeks?

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[–] EnderofGames@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

A fridge, and the help of a roommate that also doesn't mind things that aren't "fresh" by the time we use them.

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[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

That’s sounds like an even a bigger pain in the ass lol

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[–] Elivey@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

What sounds like a bigger pain in the ass to me is catastrophic global climate collapse. But any slight inconvenience is impossible to overcome for the most horribly lazy I guess.

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