▲ 2 ▼ Child Safety on Federated Social Media (purl.stanford.edu) submitted 3 years ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 21 comments fedilink hide all child comments Not the best news in this report. We need to find ways to do more.
[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) basically we dont know what they found, because they just looked up hashtags, and then didnt look at the results for ethics reasons. They dont even say what hashtags they looked through. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) We do know they only found, what, 112 actual images of CP? That's a very small number. I'd say that paints us in a pretty good light, relatively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) it says 112 instances of known CSAM. But that's based on their methodology, right, and their methodology is not actually looking at the content, it's looking at hashtags and whether google safesearch thinks it's explicit. Which Im pretty sure doesnt differentiate with what the subject of the explicitness is. It's just gonna try to detect breast or genitals I imagine. Though they do give a few damning examples of things like actual CP trading, but also that they've been removed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 3 years ago How many of those 112 instances are honeypots controlled by the FBI or another law enforcement agency? permalink fedilink source parent [–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are communities on NSFW Lemmy where people intentionally present as children engaged in sexual abuse scenarios. They're adults and this is their kink that everyone is supposed to tolerate and pretend is ok. See defederation drama over the last couple of days. What I'm saying is, the hashtags mean nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago They’re adults then what's the problem? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hightrix@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are communities on NSFW Lemmy where people intentionally present as children engaged in sexual abuse scenarios. If you are referring to the community that was cited as the reason for defederation, this is completely false. The community in question is adorableporn, extremely similar to the subreddit of the same name. No one, in any manner, in either community, presents as a child. While yes, the women that post there tend to be on the shorter and thinner side, calling short, thin adults 'children' is not being honest. To be clear, this community is about petite women. This community is NOT about women with a kink to present as a child. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) And what of all the other bait communities? Come on. It's not ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hightrix@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago What other bait communities? We can't just accept "think of the children" as an excuse. That doesn't work. Yes, no one wants actual CSAM to show up in their feed, we can all completely agree on that. But just because some middle-aged woman can't tell the difference between a 20 year old and a 15 year old, doesn't make images of the 20 year old CSAM. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) We do know they only found, what, 112 actual images of CP? That's a very small number. I'd say that paints us in a pretty good light, relatively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) it says 112 instances of known CSAM. But that's based on their methodology, right, and their methodology is not actually looking at the content, it's looking at hashtags and whether google safesearch thinks it's explicit. Which Im pretty sure doesnt differentiate with what the subject of the explicitness is. It's just gonna try to detect breast or genitals I imagine. Though they do give a few damning examples of things like actual CP trading, but also that they've been removed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 3 years ago How many of those 112 instances are honeypots controlled by the FBI or another law enforcement agency? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blazera@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) it says 112 instances of known CSAM. But that's based on their methodology, right, and their methodology is not actually looking at the content, it's looking at hashtags and whether google safesearch thinks it's explicit. Which Im pretty sure doesnt differentiate with what the subject of the explicitness is. It's just gonna try to detect breast or genitals I imagine. Though they do give a few damning examples of things like actual CP trading, but also that they've been removed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 3 years ago How many of those 112 instances are honeypots controlled by the FBI or another law enforcement agency? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 3 years ago How many of those 112 instances are honeypots controlled by the FBI or another law enforcement agency? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are communities on NSFW Lemmy where people intentionally present as children engaged in sexual abuse scenarios. They're adults and this is their kink that everyone is supposed to tolerate and pretend is ok. See defederation drama over the last couple of days. What I'm saying is, the hashtags mean nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago They’re adults then what's the problem? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hightrix@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are communities on NSFW Lemmy where people intentionally present as children engaged in sexual abuse scenarios. If you are referring to the community that was cited as the reason for defederation, this is completely false. The community in question is adorableporn, extremely similar to the subreddit of the same name. No one, in any manner, in either community, presents as a child. While yes, the women that post there tend to be on the shorter and thinner side, calling short, thin adults 'children' is not being honest. To be clear, this community is about petite women. This community is NOT about women with a kink to present as a child. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) And what of all the other bait communities? Come on. It's not ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hightrix@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago What other bait communities? We can't just accept "think of the children" as an excuse. That doesn't work. Yes, no one wants actual CSAM to show up in their feed, we can all completely agree on that. But just because some middle-aged woman can't tell the difference between a 20 year old and a 15 year old, doesn't make images of the 20 year old CSAM. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago They’re adults then what's the problem? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hightrix@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are communities on NSFW Lemmy where people intentionally present as children engaged in sexual abuse scenarios. If you are referring to the community that was cited as the reason for defederation, this is completely false. The community in question is adorableporn, extremely similar to the subreddit of the same name. No one, in any manner, in either community, presents as a child. While yes, the women that post there tend to be on the shorter and thinner side, calling short, thin adults 'children' is not being honest. To be clear, this community is about petite women. This community is NOT about women with a kink to present as a child. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) And what of all the other bait communities? Come on. It's not ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hightrix@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago What other bait communities? We can't just accept "think of the children" as an excuse. That doesn't work. Yes, no one wants actual CSAM to show up in their feed, we can all completely agree on that. But just because some middle-aged woman can't tell the difference between a 20 year old and a 15 year old, doesn't make images of the 20 year old CSAM. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) And what of all the other bait communities? Come on. It's not ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hightrix@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago What other bait communities? We can't just accept "think of the children" as an excuse. That doesn't work. Yes, no one wants actual CSAM to show up in their feed, we can all completely agree on that. But just because some middle-aged woman can't tell the difference between a 20 year old and a 15 year old, doesn't make images of the 20 year old CSAM. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hightrix@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago What other bait communities? We can't just accept "think of the children" as an excuse. That doesn't work. Yes, no one wants actual CSAM to show up in their feed, we can all completely agree on that. But just because some middle-aged woman can't tell the difference between a 20 year old and a 15 year old, doesn't make images of the 20 year old CSAM. permalink fedilink source parent