▲ 826 ▼ End of an era: Zoom tells employees to return to office for work (nypost.com) submitted 3 years ago by Late2TheParty@lemmy.world to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world 140 comments fedilink hide all child comments I guess this could just as easily be posted in an anti-work community
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean, it is crap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 years ago (7 children) It is a gift from the heavens compared to the dumpster fire that is Microsoft Teams Meetings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 years ago (3 children) Zoom app never worked well on Linux and in browser experience was absolute shit. Sometimes it just wouldn't start without any error message. 10 minutes before meeting. Fuck zoom. Teams works even in Firefox on Linux, but desktop client is very solid as well if you're into that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago My company uses both zoom and Google meet, most meetings are thankfully using Google meet but the occasional ones that use zoom are a headache. My company uses MacBooks and even then the zoom client has constant failures and it's hard to get the browser to work. Basically, it's not just a Linux problem, it's the platform lol, but yes agreed it's a nightmare in Linux as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago I have the opposite experience, Teams shits the bed constantly, chat is invisible half of the time, audioproblems galore, random hangups. Meanwhile, zoom works perfectly every time permalink fedilink source parent [–] alp@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago I had the exact opposite experience so bad, my job required me to install Windows after 5 or 6 years. Essentially, Teams classrooms cannot be larger than 200 people. Since our classrooms were as big as 800 people, Teams have a system like conference. However, it specifically mentions that you cannot create and host a conference unless you are from Microsoft Desktop App. I resigned a few months later and finally got rid of Windows, but it was a very bad experience for ne. permalink fedilink source parent [–] steinaech@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I would much rather use teams than zoom. But Google meet is the best, can't believe it was beat by zoom permalink fedilink source parent [–] Asimo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't have any issues with teams - what makes it a dumpster fire to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Thankfully I haven't used teams for a while, but my main issue with it was that it was trying to do everything poorly rather than one thing well. It's text chat, video chat, file storage, it had every MS Office product integrated. That meant you had to force your way past a bloated mess to get to the function you needed. The video chat was lacking the options that zoom had. It didn't have a proper speaker mode at that point, it used phone audio rather than speaker audio, there were less good options for screen sharing(whiteboards ect). It was always slow, memory hungry, buggy and unstable on Firefox/Linux. The desktop app was no better because it's literally just the web app in electron, but it had the added problem of being very difficult to fully close. Very glad to be rid of teams. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I feel you haven't used Teams in years because none of what you mentioned has been my experience starting using teams 2 years ago. (Only point is that I'm unsure about whiteboards, since I've never needed to use that) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago I don't think it's fair to discredit everything I said with "you haven't used teams in 1.5 years". Some of it is opinion " teams is bloated", some of it is a fact "teams is an electron webapp, which makes it slow and inefficient compared to a native app", some of it is very specific to my setup "teams is broken on my computer with my config of Firefox and Linux". I've used teams on fast Windows computers with fast internet connections, and it was far less frustrating. Maybe that's why your experience was better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Only issues I've had using teams are network related. If the pipe ain't there to handle it, of course it's gonna act like trash. What issues have you had? I do everything on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago I think you meant Microsoft Teams in general. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago I hate Microsoft but this is silly. Zoom has garbage ui for chatting or sending files. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Ahaha! Ok... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 years ago (7 children) It is a gift from the heavens compared to the dumpster fire that is Microsoft Teams Meetings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 years ago (3 children) Zoom app never worked well on Linux and in browser experience was absolute shit. Sometimes it just wouldn't start without any error message. 10 minutes before meeting. Fuck zoom. Teams works even in Firefox on Linux, but desktop client is very solid as well if you're into that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago My company uses both zoom and Google meet, most meetings are thankfully using Google meet but the occasional ones that use zoom are a headache. My company uses MacBooks and even then the zoom client has constant failures and it's hard to get the browser to work. Basically, it's not just a Linux problem, it's the platform lol, but yes agreed it's a nightmare in Linux as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago I have the opposite experience, Teams shits the bed constantly, chat is invisible half of the time, audioproblems galore, random hangups. Meanwhile, zoom works perfectly every time permalink fedilink source parent [–] alp@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago I had the exact opposite experience so bad, my job required me to install Windows after 5 or 6 years. Essentially, Teams classrooms cannot be larger than 200 people. Since our classrooms were as big as 800 people, Teams have a system like conference. However, it specifically mentions that you cannot create and host a conference unless you are from Microsoft Desktop App. I resigned a few months later and finally got rid of Windows, but it was a very bad experience for ne. permalink fedilink source parent [–] steinaech@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I would much rather use teams than zoom. But Google meet is the best, can't believe it was beat by zoom permalink fedilink source parent [–] Asimo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't have any issues with teams - what makes it a dumpster fire to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Thankfully I haven't used teams for a while, but my main issue with it was that it was trying to do everything poorly rather than one thing well. It's text chat, video chat, file storage, it had every MS Office product integrated. That meant you had to force your way past a bloated mess to get to the function you needed. The video chat was lacking the options that zoom had. It didn't have a proper speaker mode at that point, it used phone audio rather than speaker audio, there were less good options for screen sharing(whiteboards ect). It was always slow, memory hungry, buggy and unstable on Firefox/Linux. The desktop app was no better because it's literally just the web app in electron, but it had the added problem of being very difficult to fully close. Very glad to be rid of teams. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I feel you haven't used Teams in years because none of what you mentioned has been my experience starting using teams 2 years ago. (Only point is that I'm unsure about whiteboards, since I've never needed to use that) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago I don't think it's fair to discredit everything I said with "you haven't used teams in 1.5 years". Some of it is opinion " teams is bloated", some of it is a fact "teams is an electron webapp, which makes it slow and inefficient compared to a native app", some of it is very specific to my setup "teams is broken on my computer with my config of Firefox and Linux". I've used teams on fast Windows computers with fast internet connections, and it was far less frustrating. Maybe that's why your experience was better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Only issues I've had using teams are network related. If the pipe ain't there to handle it, of course it's gonna act like trash. What issues have you had? I do everything on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago I think you meant Microsoft Teams in general. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago I hate Microsoft but this is silly. Zoom has garbage ui for chatting or sending files. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Ahaha! Ok... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 years ago (3 children) Zoom app never worked well on Linux and in browser experience was absolute shit. Sometimes it just wouldn't start without any error message. 10 minutes before meeting. Fuck zoom. Teams works even in Firefox on Linux, but desktop client is very solid as well if you're into that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago My company uses both zoom and Google meet, most meetings are thankfully using Google meet but the occasional ones that use zoom are a headache. My company uses MacBooks and even then the zoom client has constant failures and it's hard to get the browser to work. Basically, it's not just a Linux problem, it's the platform lol, but yes agreed it's a nightmare in Linux as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago I have the opposite experience, Teams shits the bed constantly, chat is invisible half of the time, audioproblems galore, random hangups. Meanwhile, zoom works perfectly every time permalink fedilink source parent [–] alp@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago I had the exact opposite experience so bad, my job required me to install Windows after 5 or 6 years. Essentially, Teams classrooms cannot be larger than 200 people. Since our classrooms were as big as 800 people, Teams have a system like conference. However, it specifically mentions that you cannot create and host a conference unless you are from Microsoft Desktop App. I resigned a few months later and finally got rid of Windows, but it was a very bad experience for ne. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago My company uses both zoom and Google meet, most meetings are thankfully using Google meet but the occasional ones that use zoom are a headache. My company uses MacBooks and even then the zoom client has constant failures and it's hard to get the browser to work. Basically, it's not just a Linux problem, it's the platform lol, but yes agreed it's a nightmare in Linux as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago I have the opposite experience, Teams shits the bed constantly, chat is invisible half of the time, audioproblems galore, random hangups. Meanwhile, zoom works perfectly every time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alp@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago I had the exact opposite experience so bad, my job required me to install Windows after 5 or 6 years. Essentially, Teams classrooms cannot be larger than 200 people. Since our classrooms were as big as 800 people, Teams have a system like conference. However, it specifically mentions that you cannot create and host a conference unless you are from Microsoft Desktop App. I resigned a few months later and finally got rid of Windows, but it was a very bad experience for ne. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steinaech@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I would much rather use teams than zoom. But Google meet is the best, can't believe it was beat by zoom permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Asimo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't have any issues with teams - what makes it a dumpster fire to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Thankfully I haven't used teams for a while, but my main issue with it was that it was trying to do everything poorly rather than one thing well. It's text chat, video chat, file storage, it had every MS Office product integrated. That meant you had to force your way past a bloated mess to get to the function you needed. The video chat was lacking the options that zoom had. It didn't have a proper speaker mode at that point, it used phone audio rather than speaker audio, there were less good options for screen sharing(whiteboards ect). It was always slow, memory hungry, buggy and unstable on Firefox/Linux. The desktop app was no better because it's literally just the web app in electron, but it had the added problem of being very difficult to fully close. Very glad to be rid of teams. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I feel you haven't used Teams in years because none of what you mentioned has been my experience starting using teams 2 years ago. (Only point is that I'm unsure about whiteboards, since I've never needed to use that) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago I don't think it's fair to discredit everything I said with "you haven't used teams in 1.5 years". Some of it is opinion " teams is bloated", some of it is a fact "teams is an electron webapp, which makes it slow and inefficient compared to a native app", some of it is very specific to my setup "teams is broken on my computer with my config of Firefox and Linux". I've used teams on fast Windows computers with fast internet connections, and it was far less frustrating. Maybe that's why your experience was better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Thankfully I haven't used teams for a while, but my main issue with it was that it was trying to do everything poorly rather than one thing well. It's text chat, video chat, file storage, it had every MS Office product integrated. That meant you had to force your way past a bloated mess to get to the function you needed. The video chat was lacking the options that zoom had. It didn't have a proper speaker mode at that point, it used phone audio rather than speaker audio, there were less good options for screen sharing(whiteboards ect). It was always slow, memory hungry, buggy and unstable on Firefox/Linux. The desktop app was no better because it's literally just the web app in electron, but it had the added problem of being very difficult to fully close. Very glad to be rid of teams. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I feel you haven't used Teams in years because none of what you mentioned has been my experience starting using teams 2 years ago. (Only point is that I'm unsure about whiteboards, since I've never needed to use that) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago I don't think it's fair to discredit everything I said with "you haven't used teams in 1.5 years". Some of it is opinion " teams is bloated", some of it is a fact "teams is an electron webapp, which makes it slow and inefficient compared to a native app", some of it is very specific to my setup "teams is broken on my computer with my config of Firefox and Linux". I've used teams on fast Windows computers with fast internet connections, and it was far less frustrating. Maybe that's why your experience was better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I feel you haven't used Teams in years because none of what you mentioned has been my experience starting using teams 2 years ago. (Only point is that I'm unsure about whiteboards, since I've never needed to use that) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago I don't think it's fair to discredit everything I said with "you haven't used teams in 1.5 years". Some of it is opinion " teams is bloated", some of it is a fact "teams is an electron webapp, which makes it slow and inefficient compared to a native app", some of it is very specific to my setup "teams is broken on my computer with my config of Firefox and Linux". I've used teams on fast Windows computers with fast internet connections, and it was far less frustrating. Maybe that's why your experience was better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago I don't think it's fair to discredit everything I said with "you haven't used teams in 1.5 years". Some of it is opinion " teams is bloated", some of it is a fact "teams is an electron webapp, which makes it slow and inefficient compared to a native app", some of it is very specific to my setup "teams is broken on my computer with my config of Firefox and Linux". I've used teams on fast Windows computers with fast internet connections, and it was far less frustrating. Maybe that's why your experience was better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Only issues I've had using teams are network related. If the pipe ain't there to handle it, of course it's gonna act like trash. What issues have you had? I do everything on there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago I think you meant Microsoft Teams in general. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago I hate Microsoft but this is silly. Zoom has garbage ui for chatting or sending files. permalink fedilink source parent