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[–] 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

How do you effectively remove firearms from the equation at this point? Doesn’t the US have something like 120 guns per 100 residents? I don’t want to be the guy tasked with taking someone else’s gun away, that sounds incredibly dangerous. It also doesn’t seem fair to task someone else with that duty.

I won’t disagree that it’s a problem, but I don’t have a solution either.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (51 children)

    Every country that currently has gun control laws, at some point didn't have gun control laws and did have an armed population

    They all managed to pull it off, the USA is unique in thinking this is an impossible task. And they haven't even tried

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Every country that currently has gun control laws, at some point didn't have gun control laws and did have an armed population

    Many of those countries had only an armed aristocracy, and they made those laws to keep firearms out of everyone's hands before there were hundreds of millions of armed people.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No. All these countries had crap loads of guns. UK is a good example.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Interestingly enough, you can still purchase rifles and shotguns in the UK… you can even purchase an AR-15 or a Beretta ARX 160 legally in the UK so long as it’s chambered for .22LR and approved by the police. You just have to tell them it’s for a shooting club; not self defense.

    When the UK passed their laws, it was more targeting handguns.

    One of the biggest problems around guns in America is the culture. Dickbags seem to want to associate manhood with the usage of this one specific type of tool.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    You can buy pretty much anything in the UK if you meet legal requirements. People have machine guns and even bloody tanks. But they have them for a good and valid reason and don't go on killing rampages.

    Guns regs don't mean no guns. Gun regs mean no guns for idiots.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    That's another problem I have with simple baning of guns all your doing is disarming the responsible folk as what are you going to do with the people who fight back with said guns and what about the people who hide their guns or people that get guns illegally you have to remember that there are people that break the law

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Historically, old America looks very different from the current one. I look at things like our transit network being entirely train-based, and now being completely car-based. That is a HUGE change driven by demand.

    The point is just that large, glacial changes over many years are by no means impossible if we’ve set it as a target and there’s motivation. Nobody ever barged into a railway company’s office and said “We’re tearing up your lines by force and there’s nothing you can do about it.”

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    What kind of argument are you making here? Rail lines were torn up by force. Vehicle manufacturers bought up all the public transit systems in the US and destroyed them to increase dependency on cars.

    And then they lobbied hard to make it illegal to cross roads outside of crosswalks, they lobbied for highways and road expansions, and manipulated the public into believing that real freedom comes from owning a car.

    None of that was truly driven by real demand, the system was manipulated to increase car dependency to the benefit of the car manufacturers.

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