▲ 445 ▼ London set for massive pro-Palestinian protest demanding Gaza ceasefire (www.independent.co.uk) submitted 2 years ago by BobTheBoozer@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 202 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think Israel is doing exactly the opposite of ignoring the mindless murdering of their innocent families. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Youcve counted and compared the deaths of Israelis to Palestinians, plus considered the Palestinian children locked up with no rights or appeals etc. for at least 3 generations? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Is this about numbers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) "I think Israel is doing exactly the opposite of ignoring the mindless murdering of their innocent families." For you, it indeed sounds like a tit-for-tat kill-for- kill system. If we were doing that, which we aren't and shouldn't be, then there'd need to be a lot more dead Israelis to balance the playing field. Obviously you can see why that is a horrendous idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well, if we're going to the numbers, do remind me, how many Israeli civilians have died due to IDF using them as human shields? And what does that very low number tell you? This is one of the many reasons why it's completely pointless to play the numbers game in this war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dude, I'm agreeing. You're the one who's making it out to be some sort of tit for tat kill for kill for scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -7 points 2 years ago Well let's agree to wtf is this discussion anyway then permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) So if terrorist government A kills civilians, it's okay for murderous government B to take revenge by killing more civilians? Why does it matter where these people live, the only thing that matters is to stop killing them, depriving them of their freedoms and rights and hey, maybe even try to give them a happy life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Government B's primary goal is not to kill civilians. A's is. This is not a numbers game, it matters why and in what context things are done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ends do not justify means. Killing civilians, especially children, is abhorrent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Yes war is indeed bad. That's why Israel tried to avoid war. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Youcve counted and compared the deaths of Israelis to Palestinians, plus considered the Palestinian children locked up with no rights or appeals etc. for at least 3 generations? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Is this about numbers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) "I think Israel is doing exactly the opposite of ignoring the mindless murdering of their innocent families." For you, it indeed sounds like a tit-for-tat kill-for- kill system. If we were doing that, which we aren't and shouldn't be, then there'd need to be a lot more dead Israelis to balance the playing field. Obviously you can see why that is a horrendous idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well, if we're going to the numbers, do remind me, how many Israeli civilians have died due to IDF using them as human shields? And what does that very low number tell you? This is one of the many reasons why it's completely pointless to play the numbers game in this war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dude, I'm agreeing. You're the one who's making it out to be some sort of tit for tat kill for kill for scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -7 points 2 years ago Well let's agree to wtf is this discussion anyway then permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Is this about numbers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) "I think Israel is doing exactly the opposite of ignoring the mindless murdering of their innocent families." For you, it indeed sounds like a tit-for-tat kill-for- kill system. If we were doing that, which we aren't and shouldn't be, then there'd need to be a lot more dead Israelis to balance the playing field. Obviously you can see why that is a horrendous idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well, if we're going to the numbers, do remind me, how many Israeli civilians have died due to IDF using them as human shields? And what does that very low number tell you? This is one of the many reasons why it's completely pointless to play the numbers game in this war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dude, I'm agreeing. You're the one who's making it out to be some sort of tit for tat kill for kill for scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -7 points 2 years ago Well let's agree to wtf is this discussion anyway then permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) "I think Israel is doing exactly the opposite of ignoring the mindless murdering of their innocent families." For you, it indeed sounds like a tit-for-tat kill-for- kill system. If we were doing that, which we aren't and shouldn't be, then there'd need to be a lot more dead Israelis to balance the playing field. Obviously you can see why that is a horrendous idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well, if we're going to the numbers, do remind me, how many Israeli civilians have died due to IDF using them as human shields? And what does that very low number tell you? This is one of the many reasons why it's completely pointless to play the numbers game in this war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dude, I'm agreeing. You're the one who's making it out to be some sort of tit for tat kill for kill for scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -7 points 2 years ago Well let's agree to wtf is this discussion anyway then permalink fedilink source parent
[+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well, if we're going to the numbers, do remind me, how many Israeli civilians have died due to IDF using them as human shields? And what does that very low number tell you? This is one of the many reasons why it's completely pointless to play the numbers game in this war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dude, I'm agreeing. You're the one who's making it out to be some sort of tit for tat kill for kill for scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -7 points 2 years ago Well let's agree to wtf is this discussion anyway then permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dude, I'm agreeing. You're the one who's making it out to be some sort of tit for tat kill for kill for scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -7 points 2 years ago Well let's agree to wtf is this discussion anyway then permalink fedilink source parent
[+] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -7 points 2 years ago Well let's agree to wtf is this discussion anyway then permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) So if terrorist government A kills civilians, it's okay for murderous government B to take revenge by killing more civilians? Why does it matter where these people live, the only thing that matters is to stop killing them, depriving them of their freedoms and rights and hey, maybe even try to give them a happy life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Government B's primary goal is not to kill civilians. A's is. This is not a numbers game, it matters why and in what context things are done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ends do not justify means. Killing civilians, especially children, is abhorrent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Yes war is indeed bad. That's why Israel tried to avoid war. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Government B's primary goal is not to kill civilians. A's is. This is not a numbers game, it matters why and in what context things are done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ends do not justify means. Killing civilians, especially children, is abhorrent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Yes war is indeed bad. That's why Israel tried to avoid war. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ends do not justify means. Killing civilians, especially children, is abhorrent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Yes war is indeed bad. That's why Israel tried to avoid war. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Yes war is indeed bad. That's why Israel tried to avoid war. permalink fedilink source parent