▲ 552 ▼ Google paid a whopping $26.3 billion in 2021 to be the default search engine everywhere (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by Timely_Jellyfish_2077@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world 79 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 178 points 2 years ago (4 children) And it fucking blows now. You don't get shit but ads. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago (6 children) They’re somehow WORSE than duckduckgo nowadays like how? You were the search leader, people used DDG for privacy reasons but they passed you??? Did you forget why you’re a company? It’s because you were the best fucking search engine ever and you decided to sell that title for ads or some shit. Incredible how Google fell off the fucking side of a mountain they themselves built! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago Yes, but have you considered, line must go up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago For me it went from "great" to "usable" over the course of a decade or so, and then from "usable" to "worthless" over the course of six months. It's a remarkably awful trajectory. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children) And DuckDuckGo lacks basic stuff such as keyword exclusion. (It's my main search engine for the last few years after Startpage got bought, but lacking keyword exclusion sucks!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can -something , but it isn't full exclusion. It's generally been good enough for me. I agree the full fat version would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago So far I haven't had any luck with -something "soft" exclusions either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Yea I bailed after they nerfed exclusions and whatnot but not like the others are slam dunks permalink fedilink source parent [–] icedterminal@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago It's pretty wild how Google search has degraded. The push for SEO has really ruined useful results. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowe@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Kagi is even better than DDG. Google is absolutely horrendous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It’s interesting, but $120 a year is just too much for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The lowest plan is only $54 a year and it’s most definitely worth it for the results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) 300 searches a month is just way too little for my usage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren't limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can't do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don't have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I've done 418 searches today and it's still noon. That's ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I'd still be 4.18 times over. ... Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of atol when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn't even show cppreference in the top 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for. Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character? I’m not sure what you’re asking here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) Is ddg actually good now? I remember it feeling nearly useless waay back when it was first hitting the scene. Might have to give it a shot again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jagungal@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago I'm not a power user, but I've used DDG exclusively for a while now and I often forget that I'm using it. I'd say it's a pretty seamless transition nowadays. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) You actually get the results you are looking for without the sponsored links. Sometimes you end up searching for reddit results but that's every search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Not kagi. I haven’t specified Reddit once since switching to kagi. It really is that much better than DDG and Google. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* I only use Google if DDG can't find what I'm looking for. Usually Google doesn't either if DDG can't so lately I've been giving up after the DDG results. I can't stand Google anymore. The first page of results is just ads and the next page is all irrelevant nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it's so bad, the auto predictions dont even make sense any more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children) the auto predictions always give me more words than i need, so i have to type normally, like it wasn't there, or select, hope it doesn't load, and delete the extra words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) And when i go to click on an auto prediction it changes it at the last damn second too. That drives me mad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ourob@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is my beef with basically all modern interfaces. Stuff changes and moves with just enough of a delay to cause me to miss click. Autocomplete changing recommendations on phones, UI elements shifting on web pages, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I thought i was getting old. I mean, i am, but this just enough delay miss-clicks make me feel even older permalink fedilink source parent [–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago This has been something so frustrating that nobody seems to talk about. They really need to provide autofill that only adds the one next word, rather than two or three. Because otherwise, the autofill becomes useless. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dojan@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Google doesn't work anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 5 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Google doesn't work anymore. Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago And they want to force us to whitelist youtube from adblockers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago (6 children) They’re somehow WORSE than duckduckgo nowadays like how? You were the search leader, people used DDG for privacy reasons but they passed you??? Did you forget why you’re a company? It’s because you were the best fucking search engine ever and you decided to sell that title for ads or some shit. Incredible how Google fell off the fucking side of a mountain they themselves built! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago Yes, but have you considered, line must go up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago For me it went from "great" to "usable" over the course of a decade or so, and then from "usable" to "worthless" over the course of six months. It's a remarkably awful trajectory. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children) And DuckDuckGo lacks basic stuff such as keyword exclusion. (It's my main search engine for the last few years after Startpage got bought, but lacking keyword exclusion sucks!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can -something , but it isn't full exclusion. It's generally been good enough for me. I agree the full fat version would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago So far I haven't had any luck with -something "soft" exclusions either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Yea I bailed after they nerfed exclusions and whatnot but not like the others are slam dunks permalink fedilink source parent [–] icedterminal@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago It's pretty wild how Google search has degraded. The push for SEO has really ruined useful results. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowe@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Kagi is even better than DDG. Google is absolutely horrendous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It’s interesting, but $120 a year is just too much for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The lowest plan is only $54 a year and it’s most definitely worth it for the results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) 300 searches a month is just way too little for my usage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren't limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can't do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don't have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I've done 418 searches today and it's still noon. That's ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I'd still be 4.18 times over. ... Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of atol when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn't even show cppreference in the top 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for. Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character? I’m not sure what you’re asking here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) Is ddg actually good now? I remember it feeling nearly useless waay back when it was first hitting the scene. Might have to give it a shot again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jagungal@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago I'm not a power user, but I've used DDG exclusively for a while now and I often forget that I'm using it. I'd say it's a pretty seamless transition nowadays. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) You actually get the results you are looking for without the sponsored links. Sometimes you end up searching for reddit results but that's every search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Not kagi. I haven’t specified Reddit once since switching to kagi. It really is that much better than DDG and Google. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* I only use Google if DDG can't find what I'm looking for. Usually Google doesn't either if DDG can't so lately I've been giving up after the DDG results. I can't stand Google anymore. The first page of results is just ads and the next page is all irrelevant nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago Yes, but have you considered, line must go up? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago For me it went from "great" to "usable" over the course of a decade or so, and then from "usable" to "worthless" over the course of six months. It's a remarkably awful trajectory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children) And DuckDuckGo lacks basic stuff such as keyword exclusion. (It's my main search engine for the last few years after Startpage got bought, but lacking keyword exclusion sucks!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can -something , but it isn't full exclusion. It's generally been good enough for me. I agree the full fat version would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago So far I haven't had any luck with -something "soft" exclusions either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Yea I bailed after they nerfed exclusions and whatnot but not like the others are slam dunks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can -something , but it isn't full exclusion. It's generally been good enough for me. I agree the full fat version would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago So far I haven't had any luck with -something "soft" exclusions either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago So far I haven't had any luck with -something "soft" exclusions either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Yea I bailed after they nerfed exclusions and whatnot but not like the others are slam dunks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] icedterminal@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago It's pretty wild how Google search has degraded. The push for SEO has really ruined useful results. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowe@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Kagi is even better than DDG. Google is absolutely horrendous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It’s interesting, but $120 a year is just too much for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The lowest plan is only $54 a year and it’s most definitely worth it for the results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) 300 searches a month is just way too little for my usage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren't limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can't do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don't have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I've done 418 searches today and it's still noon. That's ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I'd still be 4.18 times over. ... Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of atol when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn't even show cppreference in the top 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for. Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character? I’m not sure what you’re asking here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] qaz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It’s interesting, but $120 a year is just too much for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The lowest plan is only $54 a year and it’s most definitely worth it for the results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) 300 searches a month is just way too little for my usage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren't limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can't do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don't have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I've done 418 searches today and it's still noon. That's ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I'd still be 4.18 times over. ... Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of atol when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn't even show cppreference in the top 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for. Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character? I’m not sure what you’re asking here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The lowest plan is only $54 a year and it’s most definitely worth it for the results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) 300 searches a month is just way too little for my usage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren't limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can't do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don't have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I've done 418 searches today and it's still noon. That's ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I'd still be 4.18 times over. ... Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of atol when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn't even show cppreference in the top 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for. Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character? I’m not sure what you’re asking here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) 300 searches a month is just way too little for my usage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren't limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can't do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don't have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I've done 418 searches today and it's still noon. That's ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I'd still be 4.18 times over. ... Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of atol when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn't even show cppreference in the top 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for. Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character? I’m not sure what you’re asking here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren't limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can't do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don't have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I've done 418 searches today and it's still noon. That's ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I'd still be 4.18 times over. ... Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of atol when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn't even show cppreference in the top 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for. Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character? I’m not sure what you’re asking here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I've done 418 searches today and it's still noon. That's ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I'd still be 4.18 times over. ... Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of atol when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn't even show cppreference in the top 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for. Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character? I’m not sure what you’re asking here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly. Does it also work with very specific technical searches? That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for. Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character? I’m not sure what you’re asking here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) My comment wasn’t that clear. 1254 is with a 90% reduction and the example question about atol’s behavior was just an example. I looked it up earlier that day but was unable to find it using Google. atol is a C/C++ function that takes in a char pointer and returns a long. I was trying to figure out if it would gracefully stop when it encountered non-numeric characters, if it would skip them or if it would cause undefined behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) Is ddg actually good now? I remember it feeling nearly useless waay back when it was first hitting the scene. Might have to give it a shot again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jagungal@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago I'm not a power user, but I've used DDG exclusively for a while now and I often forget that I'm using it. I'd say it's a pretty seamless transition nowadays. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) You actually get the results you are looking for without the sponsored links. Sometimes you end up searching for reddit results but that's every search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Not kagi. I haven’t specified Reddit once since switching to kagi. It really is that much better than DDG and Google. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* I only use Google if DDG can't find what I'm looking for. Usually Google doesn't either if DDG can't so lately I've been giving up after the DDG results. I can't stand Google anymore. The first page of results is just ads and the next page is all irrelevant nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jagungal@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago I'm not a power user, but I've used DDG exclusively for a while now and I often forget that I'm using it. I'd say it's a pretty seamless transition nowadays. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) You actually get the results you are looking for without the sponsored links. Sometimes you end up searching for reddit results but that's every search engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Not kagi. I haven’t specified Reddit once since switching to kagi. It really is that much better than DDG and Google. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Not kagi. I haven’t specified Reddit once since switching to kagi. It really is that much better than DDG and Google. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* I only use Google if DDG can't find what I'm looking for. Usually Google doesn't either if DDG can't so lately I've been giving up after the DDG results. I can't stand Google anymore. The first page of results is just ads and the next page is all irrelevant nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah it's so bad, the auto predictions dont even make sense any more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children) the auto predictions always give me more words than i need, so i have to type normally, like it wasn't there, or select, hope it doesn't load, and delete the extra words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) And when i go to click on an auto prediction it changes it at the last damn second too. That drives me mad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ourob@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is my beef with basically all modern interfaces. Stuff changes and moves with just enough of a delay to cause me to miss click. Autocomplete changing recommendations on phones, UI elements shifting on web pages, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I thought i was getting old. I mean, i am, but this just enough delay miss-clicks make me feel even older permalink fedilink source parent [–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago This has been something so frustrating that nobody seems to talk about. They really need to provide autofill that only adds the one next word, rather than two or three. Because otherwise, the autofill becomes useless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children) the auto predictions always give me more words than i need, so i have to type normally, like it wasn't there, or select, hope it doesn't load, and delete the extra words permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) And when i go to click on an auto prediction it changes it at the last damn second too. That drives me mad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ourob@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is my beef with basically all modern interfaces. Stuff changes and moves with just enough of a delay to cause me to miss click. Autocomplete changing recommendations on phones, UI elements shifting on web pages, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I thought i was getting old. I mean, i am, but this just enough delay miss-clicks make me feel even older permalink fedilink source parent [–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago This has been something so frustrating that nobody seems to talk about. They really need to provide autofill that only adds the one next word, rather than two or three. Because otherwise, the autofill becomes useless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) And when i go to click on an auto prediction it changes it at the last damn second too. That drives me mad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ourob@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is my beef with basically all modern interfaces. Stuff changes and moves with just enough of a delay to cause me to miss click. Autocomplete changing recommendations on phones, UI elements shifting on web pages, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I thought i was getting old. I mean, i am, but this just enough delay miss-clicks make me feel even older permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ourob@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is my beef with basically all modern interfaces. Stuff changes and moves with just enough of a delay to cause me to miss click. Autocomplete changing recommendations on phones, UI elements shifting on web pages, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I thought i was getting old. I mean, i am, but this just enough delay miss-clicks make me feel even older permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* I thought i was getting old. I mean, i am, but this just enough delay miss-clicks make me feel even older permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago This has been something so frustrating that nobody seems to talk about. They really need to provide autofill that only adds the one next word, rather than two or three. Because otherwise, the autofill becomes useless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dojan@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Google doesn't work anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 5 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Google doesn't work anymore. Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 5 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): Google doesn't work anymore. Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago And they want to force us to whitelist youtube from adblockers. permalink fedilink source parent