▲ 1073 ▼ They use to tell us we couldnt trust Wikipedia. Now we know. Wikipedia is the only website you can trust. (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by Daft_ish@lemmy.world to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world 330 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] MamboGator@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] balthazarsnakewizard@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hardly a loophole - Wikipedia’s greatest strength is as an aggregator of reliable information, and using Wikipedia’s sources is how people SHOULD use it. They just taught you how to use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Damn, this is genious. My future kids are going to learn so much cool stuff branded as "loopholes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] balthazarsnakewizard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Yup. My friend is a high school teacher, and he did the same thing to his class - told them not to use Wikipedia, but that Wikipedia sources were fine, and the kids did actual research. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) “Turns out if you willingly focus on the fear, it diminishes. Neat little loophole” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago That is a nice one! Brb, going to internalize it for my own sake the theoretical children. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Schools aren't with it. I was told in the 90s that cursive was the future. We had already progressed beyond word processors and they are having us learn fucking loopy letters. Uni wasn't much better. Found myself over thirty years behind industry when I got out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago I think it might depend on the field of study and location, but schools are often a little on the conservative side. Even so "loopholes" as best practices is arguably even better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's basic research and writing. You should absolutely teach your kids common sense practices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My SO is a little scared I will push too much information on them (I have a degree in geek), so I thought more of the pedagogic value of calling something a loophole/hack/cheat etc.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with that. Word it how they respond to it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago Educators HATE this weird loophole! permalink fedilink source parent [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yes. That's how you use an encyclopedia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Big brain move: Tell your students about this neat loophole, gets them started on actual research. (Ideally - I'd be lying if I said I've never used a quote from Wikipedia citing the stated source without actually reading it [usually at 5 am for papers due in two hours], but more often than not Wikipedia was the signpost for the rabbit hole) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balthazarsnakewizard@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hardly a loophole - Wikipedia’s greatest strength is as an aggregator of reliable information, and using Wikipedia’s sources is how people SHOULD use it. They just taught you how to use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Damn, this is genious. My future kids are going to learn so much cool stuff branded as "loopholes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] balthazarsnakewizard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Yup. My friend is a high school teacher, and he did the same thing to his class - told them not to use Wikipedia, but that Wikipedia sources were fine, and the kids did actual research. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) “Turns out if you willingly focus on the fear, it diminishes. Neat little loophole” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago That is a nice one! Brb, going to internalize it for my own sake the theoretical children. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Schools aren't with it. I was told in the 90s that cursive was the future. We had already progressed beyond word processors and they are having us learn fucking loopy letters. Uni wasn't much better. Found myself over thirty years behind industry when I got out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago I think it might depend on the field of study and location, but schools are often a little on the conservative side. Even so "loopholes" as best practices is arguably even better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's basic research and writing. You should absolutely teach your kids common sense practices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My SO is a little scared I will push too much information on them (I have a degree in geek), so I thought more of the pedagogic value of calling something a loophole/hack/cheat etc.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with that. Word it how they respond to it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago Educators HATE this weird loophole! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Damn, this is genious. My future kids are going to learn so much cool stuff branded as "loopholes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] balthazarsnakewizard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Yup. My friend is a high school teacher, and he did the same thing to his class - told them not to use Wikipedia, but that Wikipedia sources were fine, and the kids did actual research. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) “Turns out if you willingly focus on the fear, it diminishes. Neat little loophole” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago That is a nice one! Brb, going to internalize it for my own sake the theoretical children. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Schools aren't with it. I was told in the 90s that cursive was the future. We had already progressed beyond word processors and they are having us learn fucking loopy letters. Uni wasn't much better. Found myself over thirty years behind industry when I got out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago I think it might depend on the field of study and location, but schools are often a little on the conservative side. Even so "loopholes" as best practices is arguably even better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's basic research and writing. You should absolutely teach your kids common sense practices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My SO is a little scared I will push too much information on them (I have a degree in geek), so I thought more of the pedagogic value of calling something a loophole/hack/cheat etc.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with that. Word it how they respond to it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago Educators HATE this weird loophole! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balthazarsnakewizard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Yup. My friend is a high school teacher, and he did the same thing to his class - told them not to use Wikipedia, but that Wikipedia sources were fine, and the kids did actual research. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) “Turns out if you willingly focus on the fear, it diminishes. Neat little loophole” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago That is a nice one! Brb, going to internalize it for my own sake the theoretical children. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago That is a nice one! Brb, going to internalize it for my own sake the theoretical children. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Schools aren't with it. I was told in the 90s that cursive was the future. We had already progressed beyond word processors and they are having us learn fucking loopy letters. Uni wasn't much better. Found myself over thirty years behind industry when I got out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago I think it might depend on the field of study and location, but schools are often a little on the conservative side. Even so "loopholes" as best practices is arguably even better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago I think it might depend on the field of study and location, but schools are often a little on the conservative side. Even so "loopholes" as best practices is arguably even better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's basic research and writing. You should absolutely teach your kids common sense practices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My SO is a little scared I will push too much information on them (I have a degree in geek), so I thought more of the pedagogic value of calling something a loophole/hack/cheat etc.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with that. Word it how they respond to it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My SO is a little scared I will push too much information on them (I have a degree in geek), so I thought more of the pedagogic value of calling something a loophole/hack/cheat etc.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with that. Word it how they respond to it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I agree with that. Word it how they respond to it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago Educators HATE this weird loophole! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yes. That's how you use an encyclopedia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Big brain move: Tell your students about this neat loophole, gets them started on actual research. (Ideally - I'd be lying if I said I've never used a quote from Wikipedia citing the stated source without actually reading it [usually at 5 am for papers due in two hours], but more often than not Wikipedia was the signpost for the rabbit hole) permalink fedilink source parent