▲ 1073 ▼ They use to tell us we couldnt trust Wikipedia. Now we know. Wikipedia is the only website you can trust. (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by Daft_ish@lemmy.world to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world 330 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 78 points 2 years ago (3 children) With the exception of any article that's even slightly political. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 107 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Even for political content it's damn good. Every time someone on Lemmy points to an explicit article of bias, it falls into one of 3 categories: Slightly unfair bias, but still largely true Article is correct, Lemmy cannot provide a reliable source proving otherwise Article is incorrect, reliable source found, article amended The third case happened once in an article about a UN Resolution on North Korea, and it was because the original article source was slightly misinterpreted. But yea, basically what I'm trying to say is if a "political article" is "wrong" but you can't prove it, it's not the political article that's wrong but you. Edit: ITT - People upset with my analysis, but not willing to provide sources to the articles they disagree with permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dave@lemmy.nz 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wikipedia has a claimed positive-bias, in which negative things are often left out of the article. This is more true the lower profile the page is. And Wikipedia has an overall left-bias, because of the demographic of contributors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And Wikipedia has an overall left-bias, because of the demographic of contributors. FROM YOUR LINK Until 2021, we rated Wikipedia as Center, but changed them to Not Rated because the online encyclopedia does not fit neatly into AllSides’ media bias rating methodologies, which were developed specifically for news sites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 point 2 years ago Allsides, that rates media outlets, doesn't give a media bias rating. However, that page I linked still shows the bias even if it doesn't get them a media bias rating. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sheeple@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 years ago And sometimes it literally is USA propaganda. It's quite rare, but those articles should get fixed. Changing something like "The guerrilla fighters killed babies" to "The US State Department claimed the guerrilla fighters killed babies, but critics call the claim "wholly unfounded" [source]". But yea, as I said, actually a lot more rare than you'd think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) tankies be like "Wikipedia is unreliable, here's our wiki where we source reddit comments" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yo the tankie wiki is fucking hilarious. The USSR page has this gold mine: "On 8 August 1945, exactly three months after the defeat of Nazi Germany, Soviet troops entered Manchuria and Korea, and Japan surrendered within a week." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago careful! That wiki is managed by the Lemmy Developers, they might BLOCK you permalink fedilink source parent [–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wikipedia completely slanders people it doesnt like. For example Daniele Ganser who helped to reveal Operation Gladio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Bruno_Myers@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Honestly the aren't that biased permalink fedilink source parent [+] DrQuint@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 107 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Even for political content it's damn good. Every time someone on Lemmy points to an explicit article of bias, it falls into one of 3 categories: Slightly unfair bias, but still largely true Article is correct, Lemmy cannot provide a reliable source proving otherwise Article is incorrect, reliable source found, article amended The third case happened once in an article about a UN Resolution on North Korea, and it was because the original article source was slightly misinterpreted. But yea, basically what I'm trying to say is if a "political article" is "wrong" but you can't prove it, it's not the political article that's wrong but you. Edit: ITT - People upset with my analysis, but not willing to provide sources to the articles they disagree with permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dave@lemmy.nz 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wikipedia has a claimed positive-bias, in which negative things are often left out of the article. This is more true the lower profile the page is. And Wikipedia has an overall left-bias, because of the demographic of contributors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And Wikipedia has an overall left-bias, because of the demographic of contributors. FROM YOUR LINK Until 2021, we rated Wikipedia as Center, but changed them to Not Rated because the online encyclopedia does not fit neatly into AllSides’ media bias rating methodologies, which were developed specifically for news sites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 point 2 years ago Allsides, that rates media outlets, doesn't give a media bias rating. However, that page I linked still shows the bias even if it doesn't get them a media bias rating. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sheeple@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 years ago And sometimes it literally is USA propaganda. It's quite rare, but those articles should get fixed. Changing something like "The guerrilla fighters killed babies" to "The US State Department claimed the guerrilla fighters killed babies, but critics call the claim "wholly unfounded" [source]". But yea, as I said, actually a lot more rare than you'd think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) tankies be like "Wikipedia is unreliable, here's our wiki where we source reddit comments" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yo the tankie wiki is fucking hilarious. The USSR page has this gold mine: "On 8 August 1945, exactly three months after the defeat of Nazi Germany, Soviet troops entered Manchuria and Korea, and Japan surrendered within a week." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago careful! That wiki is managed by the Lemmy Developers, they might BLOCK you permalink fedilink source parent [–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wikipedia completely slanders people it doesnt like. For example Daniele Ganser who helped to reveal Operation Gladio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Bruno_Myers@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wikipedia has a claimed positive-bias, in which negative things are often left out of the article. This is more true the lower profile the page is. And Wikipedia has an overall left-bias, because of the demographic of contributors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And Wikipedia has an overall left-bias, because of the demographic of contributors. FROM YOUR LINK Until 2021, we rated Wikipedia as Center, but changed them to Not Rated because the online encyclopedia does not fit neatly into AllSides’ media bias rating methodologies, which were developed specifically for news sites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 point 2 years ago Allsides, that rates media outlets, doesn't give a media bias rating. However, that page I linked still shows the bias even if it doesn't get them a media bias rating. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And Wikipedia has an overall left-bias, because of the demographic of contributors. FROM YOUR LINK Until 2021, we rated Wikipedia as Center, but changed them to Not Rated because the online encyclopedia does not fit neatly into AllSides’ media bias rating methodologies, which were developed specifically for news sites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 point 2 years ago Allsides, that rates media outlets, doesn't give a media bias rating. However, that page I linked still shows the bias even if it doesn't get them a media bias rating. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 point 2 years ago Allsides, that rates media outlets, doesn't give a media bias rating. However, that page I linked still shows the bias even if it doesn't get them a media bias rating. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sheeple@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 years ago And sometimes it literally is USA propaganda. It's quite rare, but those articles should get fixed. Changing something like "The guerrilla fighters killed babies" to "The US State Department claimed the guerrilla fighters killed babies, but critics call the claim "wholly unfounded" [source]". But yea, as I said, actually a lot more rare than you'd think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) tankies be like "Wikipedia is unreliable, here's our wiki where we source reddit comments" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yo the tankie wiki is fucking hilarious. The USSR page has this gold mine: "On 8 August 1945, exactly three months after the defeat of Nazi Germany, Soviet troops entered Manchuria and Korea, and Japan surrendered within a week." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago careful! That wiki is managed by the Lemmy Developers, they might BLOCK you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 years ago And sometimes it literally is USA propaganda. It's quite rare, but those articles should get fixed. Changing something like "The guerrilla fighters killed babies" to "The US State Department claimed the guerrilla fighters killed babies, but critics call the claim "wholly unfounded" [source]". But yea, as I said, actually a lot more rare than you'd think. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) tankies be like "Wikipedia is unreliable, here's our wiki where we source reddit comments" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yo the tankie wiki is fucking hilarious. The USSR page has this gold mine: "On 8 August 1945, exactly three months after the defeat of Nazi Germany, Soviet troops entered Manchuria and Korea, and Japan surrendered within a week." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago careful! That wiki is managed by the Lemmy Developers, they might BLOCK you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yo the tankie wiki is fucking hilarious. The USSR page has this gold mine: "On 8 August 1945, exactly three months after the defeat of Nazi Germany, Soviet troops entered Manchuria and Korea, and Japan surrendered within a week." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago careful! That wiki is managed by the Lemmy Developers, they might BLOCK you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago careful! That wiki is managed by the Lemmy Developers, they might BLOCK you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wikipedia completely slanders people it doesnt like. For example Daniele Ganser who helped to reveal Operation Gladio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Bruno_Myers@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Honestly the aren't that biased permalink fedilink source parent