β² 404 βΌ One OS to rule them all, one OS to find them, one OS to bring them all and in the light bind them. (discuss.tchncs.de) submitted 2 years ago by ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments The avalanche has just began.
[β] NoiseColor@startrek.website 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) It's not going to happen for normal users. This is most likely for users that already use some ms subscription, like office. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Endorkend@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Exactly, it's going to be Office 365+Windows in a single package kinda deal. Probably with a mostly functioning Windows left if you stop paying, but no access to specific features or Office. It's just a way to get people to pay a few bucks a month extra for the Office 365 package, which in the long term culminates to getting full bank plus then some for Windows, instead of a one time flat fee people will then use for as long as they keep the system. Most people I know use the same system/laptop for 3-4 years, some even as long as 6-8 years if the thing doesn't break down. The subscription will likely be setup so that you pay what you'd normally pay for a basic Windows Home (100-130ish) within the first 2 years (say $5 a month) and every year you use the same device longer than that, is just extra gravy for Microsoft. But I doubt they'll drop the simple license. There are to many devices where a subscription wouldn't work and especially in this day and age, connecting the device to the Internet for any length of time is a big nono for the user/company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MudMan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) John Riccitelo sees your "they couldn't possibly be this self-destructive" and raises you a golden parachute. To be clear, all the not-so-bad alternatives in this thread are still dealbreakers for me. I do pay for one Office sub, because I need it for work, but I have Windows installs in maybe half a dozen devices and I am NOT paying subscriptions for all of those. The real silver lining is that if they do attempt it, and they might, it wouldn't be the first time a Windows version bombs so bad in favor of its predecessor that they have to roll things back immediately, so we have a pretty clear picture of what that would look like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Laser@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it wouldn't be the first time a Windows version bombs so bad in favor of its predecessor that they have to roll things back immediately, so we have a pretty clear picture of what that would look like. The question is, would they care? End user business is a rather small position on their balance sheet I'd guess, it's rather big support contracts and Azure. Let the individual users complain for a while, they've eaten all the shit over the years anyways, they'll swallow another turd. My current employer justified switching from a Linux based system to Windows which took huge efforts with huge amounts of copium ("they've given in and understood our demands!") yet I bet more issues will arrive when Windows 10 support expires. Businesses won't switch anyways, they never did in huge numbers, and private users are good at complaining and sometimes even holding out on old versions but once storage gets encrypted by ransomware that got in through unpatched security flaws in their no longer supported version of Windows, they'll pay up anyways. But I guess MS just says this idea out loud now so that people can get enraged and then they'll do something less shitty and everyone will be like "we won! There's no subscription!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MudMan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago They cared the last few times, hence my good news comment. MS's revenue may be whatever it is, but Windows is definitely the crown jewel. There is no way MS would live through it cratering in home use. Not in this weather. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Itβs none of the above. Turns out all the references to a subscription in the test builds were to Windows Internet of Things Enterprise subscription edition. Most enterprise things are ran on a subscription type license where you pay for support and rights to use it on an annual basis. permalink fedilink source parent [β] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or they might lock additional things behind the subscription, like PowerShell, or Windows Defender. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago Windows Defender So like a mafia stategy. β[not really] Nice OS, be a shame if something happened to it. Maybe you should consider our protection planβ? permalink fedilink source parent [β] IntangibleSloth@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago It's for Windows 365 permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Endorkend@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Exactly, it's going to be Office 365+Windows in a single package kinda deal. Probably with a mostly functioning Windows left if you stop paying, but no access to specific features or Office. It's just a way to get people to pay a few bucks a month extra for the Office 365 package, which in the long term culminates to getting full bank plus then some for Windows, instead of a one time flat fee people will then use for as long as they keep the system. Most people I know use the same system/laptop for 3-4 years, some even as long as 6-8 years if the thing doesn't break down. The subscription will likely be setup so that you pay what you'd normally pay for a basic Windows Home (100-130ish) within the first 2 years (say $5 a month) and every year you use the same device longer than that, is just extra gravy for Microsoft. But I doubt they'll drop the simple license. There are to many devices where a subscription wouldn't work and especially in this day and age, connecting the device to the Internet for any length of time is a big nono for the user/company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MudMan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) John Riccitelo sees your "they couldn't possibly be this self-destructive" and raises you a golden parachute. To be clear, all the not-so-bad alternatives in this thread are still dealbreakers for me. I do pay for one Office sub, because I need it for work, but I have Windows installs in maybe half a dozen devices and I am NOT paying subscriptions for all of those. The real silver lining is that if they do attempt it, and they might, it wouldn't be the first time a Windows version bombs so bad in favor of its predecessor that they have to roll things back immediately, so we have a pretty clear picture of what that would look like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Laser@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it wouldn't be the first time a Windows version bombs so bad in favor of its predecessor that they have to roll things back immediately, so we have a pretty clear picture of what that would look like. The question is, would they care? End user business is a rather small position on their balance sheet I'd guess, it's rather big support contracts and Azure. Let the individual users complain for a while, they've eaten all the shit over the years anyways, they'll swallow another turd. My current employer justified switching from a Linux based system to Windows which took huge efforts with huge amounts of copium ("they've given in and understood our demands!") yet I bet more issues will arrive when Windows 10 support expires. Businesses won't switch anyways, they never did in huge numbers, and private users are good at complaining and sometimes even holding out on old versions but once storage gets encrypted by ransomware that got in through unpatched security flaws in their no longer supported version of Windows, they'll pay up anyways. But I guess MS just says this idea out loud now so that people can get enraged and then they'll do something less shitty and everyone will be like "we won! There's no subscription!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MudMan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago They cared the last few times, hence my good news comment. MS's revenue may be whatever it is, but Windows is definitely the crown jewel. There is no way MS would live through it cratering in home use. Not in this weather. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MudMan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) John Riccitelo sees your "they couldn't possibly be this self-destructive" and raises you a golden parachute. To be clear, all the not-so-bad alternatives in this thread are still dealbreakers for me. I do pay for one Office sub, because I need it for work, but I have Windows installs in maybe half a dozen devices and I am NOT paying subscriptions for all of those. The real silver lining is that if they do attempt it, and they might, it wouldn't be the first time a Windows version bombs so bad in favor of its predecessor that they have to roll things back immediately, so we have a pretty clear picture of what that would look like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Laser@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it wouldn't be the first time a Windows version bombs so bad in favor of its predecessor that they have to roll things back immediately, so we have a pretty clear picture of what that would look like. The question is, would they care? End user business is a rather small position on their balance sheet I'd guess, it's rather big support contracts and Azure. Let the individual users complain for a while, they've eaten all the shit over the years anyways, they'll swallow another turd. My current employer justified switching from a Linux based system to Windows which took huge efforts with huge amounts of copium ("they've given in and understood our demands!") yet I bet more issues will arrive when Windows 10 support expires. Businesses won't switch anyways, they never did in huge numbers, and private users are good at complaining and sometimes even holding out on old versions but once storage gets encrypted by ransomware that got in through unpatched security flaws in their no longer supported version of Windows, they'll pay up anyways. But I guess MS just says this idea out loud now so that people can get enraged and then they'll do something less shitty and everyone will be like "we won! There's no subscription!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MudMan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago They cared the last few times, hence my good news comment. MS's revenue may be whatever it is, but Windows is definitely the crown jewel. There is no way MS would live through it cratering in home use. Not in this weather. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Laser@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it wouldn't be the first time a Windows version bombs so bad in favor of its predecessor that they have to roll things back immediately, so we have a pretty clear picture of what that would look like. The question is, would they care? End user business is a rather small position on their balance sheet I'd guess, it's rather big support contracts and Azure. Let the individual users complain for a while, they've eaten all the shit over the years anyways, they'll swallow another turd. My current employer justified switching from a Linux based system to Windows which took huge efforts with huge amounts of copium ("they've given in and understood our demands!") yet I bet more issues will arrive when Windows 10 support expires. Businesses won't switch anyways, they never did in huge numbers, and private users are good at complaining and sometimes even holding out on old versions but once storage gets encrypted by ransomware that got in through unpatched security flaws in their no longer supported version of Windows, they'll pay up anyways. But I guess MS just says this idea out loud now so that people can get enraged and then they'll do something less shitty and everyone will be like "we won! There's no subscription!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MudMan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago They cared the last few times, hence my good news comment. MS's revenue may be whatever it is, but Windows is definitely the crown jewel. There is no way MS would live through it cratering in home use. Not in this weather. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MudMan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago They cared the last few times, hence my good news comment. MS's revenue may be whatever it is, but Windows is definitely the crown jewel. There is no way MS would live through it cratering in home use. Not in this weather. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Itβs none of the above. Turns out all the references to a subscription in the test builds were to Windows Internet of Things Enterprise subscription edition. Most enterprise things are ran on a subscription type license where you pay for support and rights to use it on an annual basis. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or they might lock additional things behind the subscription, like PowerShell, or Windows Defender. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago Windows Defender So like a mafia stategy. β[not really] Nice OS, be a shame if something happened to it. Maybe you should consider our protection planβ? permalink fedilink source parent [β] IntangibleSloth@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago It's for Windows 365 permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago Windows Defender So like a mafia stategy. β[not really] Nice OS, be a shame if something happened to it. Maybe you should consider our protection planβ? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] IntangibleSloth@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago It's for Windows 365 permalink fedilink source parent
