β² 404 βΌ One OS to rule them all, one OS to find them, one OS to bring them all and in the light bind them. (discuss.tchncs.de) submitted 2 years ago by ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments The avalanche has just began.
[β] bappity@lemmy.world 159 points 2 years ago (18 children) if this is true I might actually stop being lazy and mess with Linux for my personal systems permalink fedilink source hideshow 30 child comments replies: [β] ebits21@lemmy.ca 107 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please do. One of us, one of us! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (4 children) There is no "us" or "them". If Microsoft will maintain its streak of spoiling everything they touch, everyone will switch to Linux sooner or later π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Now, for an actual sane take, unless we do the actual marketing work in order to gather interest from people, no, not even close to everyone will switch to Linux, specially considering Microsoft has literal millions of dollars to spend in marketing and will likely spin this in a way that non-techy people specially will buy in due to not knowing any choice. This is a PSA begging people to contribute to their favorite distros not (only) with code but with marketing. Social media posts, videos, word of mouth recommendations, advocacy, events, etc. If your distro doesn't have a marketing team, create one, as most projects should already have done two decades ago. If your distro has one (like we do in Fedora), join it. There'll likely be something you can help with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Okay, you've got a point π permalink fedilink source parent [β] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Arch doesn't need a marketing department. If someone uses Arch they'll tell you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] guskikalola@social.vivaldi.net 5 points 2 years ago @averagedrunk @joojmachine I use arch btw permalink fedilink source parent [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Do you have a minute to talk about our Lord and Savior, Patrick Volkerding? Have you ever set up Arch with Secureboot, full disk encryption, Btrfs snapshots, NVidia drivers and multilib support and thought "man, I wish this was harder"? Then Slackware is the distro for you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago This is suspiciously similar to the original pitch Torvalds made for Linux... I'm in! permalink fedilink source parent [β] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That's true. We're just getting the window managers and drivers ready for everyone who will follow us. permalink fedilink source parent [β] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) This is extreme copium, sorry to say. You have no idea how much shit the average person will eat to prevent having to learn something new. For someone who has never manually installed an OS before, even Windows, the idea of doing that with something like Linux and potentially deleting their existing OS is genuinely frightening. Never underestimate the fact that people will pay through the nose to ensure they don't have to contend with the unknown. permalink fedilink source parent [+] tetraodon@feddit.it 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago But but but 2023 is the year of Linux on the steam deck! π permalink fedilink source parent [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Realistically, the year of the Linux desktop will come when Windows 12 enables WSL by default. Or when desktop PCs die out and Android/SteamOS/ChromeOS devices take over the laptop market. permalink fedilink source parent [β] mateomaui@reddthat.com 36 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://www.windowslatest.com/2023/10/16/no-windows-12-is-a-free-upgrade-and-wont-require-a-subscription/ As it turns out, the rumours discussed by some outlets are based on the βIoT Enterprise Subscriptionβ of Windows 11, not Windows vNext. For those unaware, Windows 24H2 or Windows vNext is what Windows 12 is being called publicly. As you can see in the above screenshots, the βsubscriptionβ code strings found in the preview builds are associated with a new Enterprise version of Windows 11 loT and have nothing to do with Windows 12 or future versions of the OS. Iβm not saying to use it or to not switch to linux, but maybe this isnβt that much of a concern. Iβd be more concerned about the next version of Windows will be heavily integrated with AI and cloud capabilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] hactar42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Windows accounts for 12% of their profits, and I'm willing to bet that the consumer versions are a very small part of that. Most businesses are not buying OEM licenses. They are already using a subscription model for M365 which includes Windows licenses or a standard EA or SA agreement. They learned after the Windows Phone that they don't need to win the client OS battle as long as they can get their other products on the devices. Since then Windows has really focused more on keeping you locked into the Microsoft ecosystem versus keeping locked into Windows itself. Hence why the upgrades have all been free where in the past you would have to repurchase each new edition of Windows. Of course I could be completely wrong. They have done some bonkers stuff in the past. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago MS is completely focussed on the Enterprise market now. They need everyone to start using Office 365 early so they'll keep using it at their job. They don't really care what OS people run underneath, as long as it can connect to Azure/Entra. permalink fedilink source parent [β] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Agreed. Also why they're more and more fucking annoying about OneDrive and O365 subs. I would be extremely surprised at seeing anyone at MS thinking the best way to monetize Windows is to get consumers, who are notoriously more and more tired of subs in general, is to get them to pay a sub fee on the computer they bought. Let's face it, virtually no one is buying a Windows license, it comes with the machine they buy. If you told people that they have to now pay a fee every month/year to keep using it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [β] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm an early adopter of Linux (early as in 96-97) but I also run MacOS and Windows so I'm I tell you this from an unbiased point of view. Linux has never been easier to run. My daily driver is a ThinkPad running Pop!_OS Linux and I never have to think about it. I just installed and everything ran. I don't game on my daily driver, I use MacOS for music. At this point Windows is relegated to Adobe Creative Suite, GeForce Now, and the occasional game I can't run on Linux or GeForce Now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago Truly ungovernable, mad respect. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago No doubt. LibreOffice is way better than the windows office sweet now. Seriously zippy fast and easy to use. And less stuff breaks. permalink fedilink source parent [β] unconsciousvoidling@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) I havenβt found it that difficult. Just take the plunge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bappity@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not concerned with difficulty just that it'll take a bit of my time yes I'm lazy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago It's very gradual and fun because it's new. A lot of you being lazy is also just your safety mechanism kicking in so you don't dive into every single urge all the time. Once you dip your toe, you'll be at it for a long and good time. permalink fedilink source parent [β] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just start by dual booting one of the "easy" distros and doing stuff that doesn't require Windows. Eventually you'll start spending more and more time on it out of comfort, then one day you may realise that you haven't needed your Windows partition in months, and can skip out on it entirely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago Another alternative is to use FOSS software this is available on Linux and Windows. Get used to the software before the desktop itself. For me, dual booting was a lot of work and wasn't fun. Maybe live booting for a session or two could be a way to go? I never tried that. permalink fedilink source parent [β] dynamo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's easy if you know how to manage your anger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] bappity@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (2 children) oh I'm experienced with anger I assure you. I work with CSS and PHP in my job permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago π± permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [β] qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago (6 children) Or not. Swearing at the screen and punching the keyboard always feel cathartic after failling to do something for the nth time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies) [β] bemenaker@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago News flash, it's not permalink fedilink source parent [β] PizzaMan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (9 children) I made the switch about a two months ago. I'm using my windows side of my dual boot a hell of a lot less than I thought I would, mostly thanks to steam's proton. Started with zorin, but eventually landed on mint. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments load more comments (9 replies) [β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 4 points 2 years ago linuxjourney.com is a good resource permalink fedilink source parent [β] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago Iβve already been playing with Nobara and Linux Mint. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] Exusia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Hard agree. I got a friend trying to get me on linux, and I've just been on windows since my first pc. But fuck it. I'll maintain 10 until eol and then whatever Linux supports will be the games I play on steam. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (6 replies)
[β] ebits21@lemmy.ca 107 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please do. One of us, one of us! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (4 children) There is no "us" or "them". If Microsoft will maintain its streak of spoiling everything they touch, everyone will switch to Linux sooner or later π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Now, for an actual sane take, unless we do the actual marketing work in order to gather interest from people, no, not even close to everyone will switch to Linux, specially considering Microsoft has literal millions of dollars to spend in marketing and will likely spin this in a way that non-techy people specially will buy in due to not knowing any choice. This is a PSA begging people to contribute to their favorite distros not (only) with code but with marketing. Social media posts, videos, word of mouth recommendations, advocacy, events, etc. If your distro doesn't have a marketing team, create one, as most projects should already have done two decades ago. If your distro has one (like we do in Fedora), join it. There'll likely be something you can help with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Okay, you've got a point π permalink fedilink source parent [β] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Arch doesn't need a marketing department. If someone uses Arch they'll tell you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] guskikalola@social.vivaldi.net 5 points 2 years ago @averagedrunk @joojmachine I use arch btw permalink fedilink source parent [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Do you have a minute to talk about our Lord and Savior, Patrick Volkerding? Have you ever set up Arch with Secureboot, full disk encryption, Btrfs snapshots, NVidia drivers and multilib support and thought "man, I wish this was harder"? Then Slackware is the distro for you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago This is suspiciously similar to the original pitch Torvalds made for Linux... I'm in! permalink fedilink source parent [β] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That's true. We're just getting the window managers and drivers ready for everyone who will follow us. permalink fedilink source parent [β] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) This is extreme copium, sorry to say. You have no idea how much shit the average person will eat to prevent having to learn something new. For someone who has never manually installed an OS before, even Windows, the idea of doing that with something like Linux and potentially deleting their existing OS is genuinely frightening. Never underestimate the fact that people will pay through the nose to ensure they don't have to contend with the unknown. permalink fedilink source parent [+] tetraodon@feddit.it 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago But but but 2023 is the year of Linux on the steam deck! π permalink fedilink source parent [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Realistically, the year of the Linux desktop will come when Windows 12 enables WSL by default. Or when desktop PCs die out and Android/SteamOS/ChromeOS devices take over the laptop market. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (4 children) There is no "us" or "them". If Microsoft will maintain its streak of spoiling everything they touch, everyone will switch to Linux sooner or later π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Now, for an actual sane take, unless we do the actual marketing work in order to gather interest from people, no, not even close to everyone will switch to Linux, specially considering Microsoft has literal millions of dollars to spend in marketing and will likely spin this in a way that non-techy people specially will buy in due to not knowing any choice. This is a PSA begging people to contribute to their favorite distros not (only) with code but with marketing. Social media posts, videos, word of mouth recommendations, advocacy, events, etc. If your distro doesn't have a marketing team, create one, as most projects should already have done two decades ago. If your distro has one (like we do in Fedora), join it. There'll likely be something you can help with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Okay, you've got a point π permalink fedilink source parent [β] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Arch doesn't need a marketing department. If someone uses Arch they'll tell you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] guskikalola@social.vivaldi.net 5 points 2 years ago @averagedrunk @joojmachine I use arch btw permalink fedilink source parent [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Do you have a minute to talk about our Lord and Savior, Patrick Volkerding? Have you ever set up Arch with Secureboot, full disk encryption, Btrfs snapshots, NVidia drivers and multilib support and thought "man, I wish this was harder"? Then Slackware is the distro for you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago This is suspiciously similar to the original pitch Torvalds made for Linux... I'm in! permalink fedilink source parent [β] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That's true. We're just getting the window managers and drivers ready for everyone who will follow us. permalink fedilink source parent [β] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) This is extreme copium, sorry to say. You have no idea how much shit the average person will eat to prevent having to learn something new. For someone who has never manually installed an OS before, even Windows, the idea of doing that with something like Linux and potentially deleting their existing OS is genuinely frightening. Never underestimate the fact that people will pay through the nose to ensure they don't have to contend with the unknown. permalink fedilink source parent [+] tetraodon@feddit.it 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago But but but 2023 is the year of Linux on the steam deck! π permalink fedilink source parent [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Realistically, the year of the Linux desktop will come when Windows 12 enables WSL by default. Or when desktop PCs die out and Android/SteamOS/ChromeOS devices take over the laptop market. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Now, for an actual sane take, unless we do the actual marketing work in order to gather interest from people, no, not even close to everyone will switch to Linux, specially considering Microsoft has literal millions of dollars to spend in marketing and will likely spin this in a way that non-techy people specially will buy in due to not knowing any choice. This is a PSA begging people to contribute to their favorite distros not (only) with code but with marketing. Social media posts, videos, word of mouth recommendations, advocacy, events, etc. If your distro doesn't have a marketing team, create one, as most projects should already have done two decades ago. If your distro has one (like we do in Fedora), join it. There'll likely be something you can help with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Okay, you've got a point π permalink fedilink source parent [β] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Arch doesn't need a marketing department. If someone uses Arch they'll tell you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] guskikalola@social.vivaldi.net 5 points 2 years ago @averagedrunk @joojmachine I use arch btw permalink fedilink source parent [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Do you have a minute to talk about our Lord and Savior, Patrick Volkerding? Have you ever set up Arch with Secureboot, full disk encryption, Btrfs snapshots, NVidia drivers and multilib support and thought "man, I wish this was harder"? Then Slackware is the distro for you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago This is suspiciously similar to the original pitch Torvalds made for Linux... I'm in! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Okay, you've got a point π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Arch doesn't need a marketing department. If someone uses Arch they'll tell you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] guskikalola@social.vivaldi.net 5 points 2 years ago @averagedrunk @joojmachine I use arch btw permalink fedilink source parent
[β] guskikalola@social.vivaldi.net 5 points 2 years ago @averagedrunk @joojmachine I use arch btw permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Do you have a minute to talk about our Lord and Savior, Patrick Volkerding? Have you ever set up Arch with Secureboot, full disk encryption, Btrfs snapshots, NVidia drivers and multilib support and thought "man, I wish this was harder"? Then Slackware is the distro for you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago This is suspiciously similar to the original pitch Torvalds made for Linux... I'm in! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago This is suspiciously similar to the original pitch Torvalds made for Linux... I'm in! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That's true. We're just getting the window managers and drivers ready for everyone who will follow us. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) This is extreme copium, sorry to say. You have no idea how much shit the average person will eat to prevent having to learn something new. For someone who has never manually installed an OS before, even Windows, the idea of doing that with something like Linux and potentially deleting their existing OS is genuinely frightening. Never underestimate the fact that people will pay through the nose to ensure they don't have to contend with the unknown. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] tetraodon@feddit.it 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago But but but 2023 is the year of Linux on the steam deck! π permalink fedilink source parent [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Realistically, the year of the Linux desktop will come when Windows 12 enables WSL by default. Or when desktop PCs die out and Android/SteamOS/ChromeOS devices take over the laptop market. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago But but but 2023 is the year of Linux on the steam deck! π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Realistically, the year of the Linux desktop will come when Windows 12 enables WSL by default. Or when desktop PCs die out and Android/SteamOS/ChromeOS devices take over the laptop market. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mateomaui@reddthat.com 36 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://www.windowslatest.com/2023/10/16/no-windows-12-is-a-free-upgrade-and-wont-require-a-subscription/ As it turns out, the rumours discussed by some outlets are based on the βIoT Enterprise Subscriptionβ of Windows 11, not Windows vNext. For those unaware, Windows 24H2 or Windows vNext is what Windows 12 is being called publicly. As you can see in the above screenshots, the βsubscriptionβ code strings found in the preview builds are associated with a new Enterprise version of Windows 11 loT and have nothing to do with Windows 12 or future versions of the OS. Iβm not saying to use it or to not switch to linux, but maybe this isnβt that much of a concern. Iβd be more concerned about the next version of Windows will be heavily integrated with AI and cloud capabilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] hactar42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Windows accounts for 12% of their profits, and I'm willing to bet that the consumer versions are a very small part of that. Most businesses are not buying OEM licenses. They are already using a subscription model for M365 which includes Windows licenses or a standard EA or SA agreement. They learned after the Windows Phone that they don't need to win the client OS battle as long as they can get their other products on the devices. Since then Windows has really focused more on keeping you locked into the Microsoft ecosystem versus keeping locked into Windows itself. Hence why the upgrades have all been free where in the past you would have to repurchase each new edition of Windows. Of course I could be completely wrong. They have done some bonkers stuff in the past. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago MS is completely focussed on the Enterprise market now. They need everyone to start using Office 365 early so they'll keep using it at their job. They don't really care what OS people run underneath, as long as it can connect to Azure/Entra. permalink fedilink source parent [β] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Agreed. Also why they're more and more fucking annoying about OneDrive and O365 subs. I would be extremely surprised at seeing anyone at MS thinking the best way to monetize Windows is to get consumers, who are notoriously more and more tired of subs in general, is to get them to pay a sub fee on the computer they bought. Let's face it, virtually no one is buying a Windows license, it comes with the machine they buy. If you told people that they have to now pay a fee every month/year to keep using it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[β] hactar42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Windows accounts for 12% of their profits, and I'm willing to bet that the consumer versions are a very small part of that. Most businesses are not buying OEM licenses. They are already using a subscription model for M365 which includes Windows licenses or a standard EA or SA agreement. They learned after the Windows Phone that they don't need to win the client OS battle as long as they can get their other products on the devices. Since then Windows has really focused more on keeping you locked into the Microsoft ecosystem versus keeping locked into Windows itself. Hence why the upgrades have all been free where in the past you would have to repurchase each new edition of Windows. Of course I could be completely wrong. They have done some bonkers stuff in the past. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago MS is completely focussed on the Enterprise market now. They need everyone to start using Office 365 early so they'll keep using it at their job. They don't really care what OS people run underneath, as long as it can connect to Azure/Entra. permalink fedilink source parent [β] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Agreed. Also why they're more and more fucking annoying about OneDrive and O365 subs. I would be extremely surprised at seeing anyone at MS thinking the best way to monetize Windows is to get consumers, who are notoriously more and more tired of subs in general, is to get them to pay a sub fee on the computer they bought. Let's face it, virtually no one is buying a Windows license, it comes with the machine they buy. If you told people that they have to now pay a fee every month/year to keep using it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago MS is completely focussed on the Enterprise market now. They need everyone to start using Office 365 early so they'll keep using it at their job. They don't really care what OS people run underneath, as long as it can connect to Azure/Entra. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Agreed. Also why they're more and more fucking annoying about OneDrive and O365 subs. I would be extremely surprised at seeing anyone at MS thinking the best way to monetize Windows is to get consumers, who are notoriously more and more tired of subs in general, is to get them to pay a sub fee on the computer they bought. Let's face it, virtually no one is buying a Windows license, it comes with the machine they buy. If you told people that they have to now pay a fee every month/year to keep using it. permalink fedilink source parent
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[β] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm an early adopter of Linux (early as in 96-97) but I also run MacOS and Windows so I'm I tell you this from an unbiased point of view. Linux has never been easier to run. My daily driver is a ThinkPad running Pop!_OS Linux and I never have to think about it. I just installed and everything ran. I don't game on my daily driver, I use MacOS for music. At this point Windows is relegated to Adobe Creative Suite, GeForce Now, and the occasional game I can't run on Linux or GeForce Now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago Truly ungovernable, mad respect. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago No doubt. LibreOffice is way better than the windows office sweet now. Seriously zippy fast and easy to use. And less stuff breaks. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago Truly ungovernable, mad respect. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago No doubt. LibreOffice is way better than the windows office sweet now. Seriously zippy fast and easy to use. And less stuff breaks. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] unconsciousvoidling@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) I havenβt found it that difficult. Just take the plunge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bappity@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not concerned with difficulty just that it'll take a bit of my time yes I'm lazy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago It's very gradual and fun because it's new. A lot of you being lazy is also just your safety mechanism kicking in so you don't dive into every single urge all the time. Once you dip your toe, you'll be at it for a long and good time. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bappity@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not concerned with difficulty just that it'll take a bit of my time yes I'm lazy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago It's very gradual and fun because it's new. A lot of you being lazy is also just your safety mechanism kicking in so you don't dive into every single urge all the time. Once you dip your toe, you'll be at it for a long and good time. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago It's very gradual and fun because it's new. A lot of you being lazy is also just your safety mechanism kicking in so you don't dive into every single urge all the time. Once you dip your toe, you'll be at it for a long and good time. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just start by dual booting one of the "easy" distros and doing stuff that doesn't require Windows. Eventually you'll start spending more and more time on it out of comfort, then one day you may realise that you haven't needed your Windows partition in months, and can skip out on it entirely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago Another alternative is to use FOSS software this is available on Linux and Windows. Get used to the software before the desktop itself. For me, dual booting was a lot of work and wasn't fun. Maybe live booting for a session or two could be a way to go? I never tried that. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago Another alternative is to use FOSS software this is available on Linux and Windows. Get used to the software before the desktop itself. For me, dual booting was a lot of work and wasn't fun. Maybe live booting for a session or two could be a way to go? I never tried that. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dynamo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's easy if you know how to manage your anger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] bappity@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (2 children) oh I'm experienced with anger I assure you. I work with CSS and PHP in my job permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago π± permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [β] qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago (6 children) Or not. Swearing at the screen and punching the keyboard always feel cathartic after failling to do something for the nth time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies)
[β] bappity@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (2 children) oh I'm experienced with anger I assure you. I work with CSS and PHP in my job permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago π± permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[β] qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago (6 children) Or not. Swearing at the screen and punching the keyboard always feel cathartic after failling to do something for the nth time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies)
[β] bemenaker@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago News flash, it's not permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PizzaMan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (9 children) I made the switch about a two months ago. I'm using my windows side of my dual boot a hell of a lot less than I thought I would, mostly thanks to steam's proton. Started with zorin, but eventually landed on mint. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments load more comments (9 replies)
[β] Sneptaur@pawb.social 4 points 2 years ago linuxjourney.com is a good resource permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago Iβve already been playing with Nobara and Linux Mint. permalink fedilink source parent
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[β] Exusia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Hard agree. I got a friend trying to get me on linux, and I've just been on windows since my first pc. But fuck it. I'll maintain 10 until eol and then whatever Linux supports will be the games I play on steam. permalink fedilink source parent