▲ 89 ▼ Germany’s battery storage boom: The largest projects (oenergetice.cz) submitted 3 days ago by Pip@feddit.org to c/europe@feddit.org 14 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 20 points 3 days ago (2 children) It's a good start that hopefully stabilizes the grid and keeps energy prices from exploding too much. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FleetingTit@feddit.org 12 points 3 days ago Energy prices will go up anyway because of the planned gas power plants. They will be paid even for not running at all and are expensive as hell to build and operate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago (2 children) The price of electric power is due to the pricing zone being all of Germany. Patching up a fundamentally broken system (in the age of renewables) will only ever yield subpar results when changing to a modern pricing structure is somewhat easy and done in many other parts of the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Melchior@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago Pricing zones help match the reality in the power grid to the electricity market in a geographical sense. That still means infrastructure has to be built. For example today the weather is generally sunny in Germany, but there is little wind. Being able to store a good bit of the electricity for the night, when the sun is not shining, would really help a lot. Also if you use pricing zones, that probably would lead to more connections between the zones being built. permalink fedilink source parent [–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I'm not very familiar with different pricing structures. What does a modern pricing structure look like? Regional pricing? Dynamic pricing house by house? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago* Pricing by substation is among the most modern. This wasn't easy to do 60 years ago. But it is now. Having region based prices (e.g. north west south east would also be better than the status quo) Dynamic pricing per house is nonsense. And you should be well aware of that. Why even suggest it? I mean, You could also just build more fossil fueled power plants and rely on those. Than we could keep the pricing model as fossil fuels are competitively easy to move. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FleetingTit@feddit.org 12 points 3 days ago Energy prices will go up anyway because of the planned gas power plants. They will be paid even for not running at all and are expensive as hell to build and operate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago (2 children) The price of electric power is due to the pricing zone being all of Germany. Patching up a fundamentally broken system (in the age of renewables) will only ever yield subpar results when changing to a modern pricing structure is somewhat easy and done in many other parts of the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Melchior@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago Pricing zones help match the reality in the power grid to the electricity market in a geographical sense. That still means infrastructure has to be built. For example today the weather is generally sunny in Germany, but there is little wind. Being able to store a good bit of the electricity for the night, when the sun is not shining, would really help a lot. Also if you use pricing zones, that probably would lead to more connections between the zones being built. permalink fedilink source parent [–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I'm not very familiar with different pricing structures. What does a modern pricing structure look like? Regional pricing? Dynamic pricing house by house? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago* Pricing by substation is among the most modern. This wasn't easy to do 60 years ago. But it is now. Having region based prices (e.g. north west south east would also be better than the status quo) Dynamic pricing per house is nonsense. And you should be well aware of that. Why even suggest it? I mean, You could also just build more fossil fueled power plants and rely on those. Than we could keep the pricing model as fossil fuels are competitively easy to move. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Melchior@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago Pricing zones help match the reality in the power grid to the electricity market in a geographical sense. That still means infrastructure has to be built. For example today the weather is generally sunny in Germany, but there is little wind. Being able to store a good bit of the electricity for the night, when the sun is not shining, would really help a lot. Also if you use pricing zones, that probably would lead to more connections between the zones being built. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I'm not very familiar with different pricing structures. What does a modern pricing structure look like? Regional pricing? Dynamic pricing house by house? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago* Pricing by substation is among the most modern. This wasn't easy to do 60 years ago. But it is now. Having region based prices (e.g. north west south east would also be better than the status quo) Dynamic pricing per house is nonsense. And you should be well aware of that. Why even suggest it? I mean, You could also just build more fossil fueled power plants and rely on those. Than we could keep the pricing model as fossil fuels are competitively easy to move. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago* Pricing by substation is among the most modern. This wasn't easy to do 60 years ago. But it is now. Having region based prices (e.g. north west south east would also be better than the status quo) Dynamic pricing per house is nonsense. And you should be well aware of that. Why even suggest it? I mean, You could also just build more fossil fueled power plants and rely on those. Than we could keep the pricing model as fossil fuels are competitively easy to move. permalink fedilink source parent