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Rumored, Never-to-Be-Released Apple Feature May Have Been Too Much Truth for Most Consumers (gizmodo.com)
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[–] 45 points 5 days ago (4 children)

That doesn’t sound so sinister.

This post bears the marks of manufactured outrage. Not required; we have plenty of real outrage.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 days ago* (2 children)

    As somebody who would not want any corporation to be able to preload my data onto a phone it ships me, which implies it knows exactly what data I have to begin with, it sounds plenty sinister to me. Just swap "Apple" with "Samsung" or "Google" or "Microsoft" or literally any other company.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Eh?

    This is if you a) purchase the phone in some way that is associated with your Apple account, b) have cloud backups already in place, and c) opt in to the preload.

    If any of those things aren’t in place, it wouldn’t have happened.

    Now your likely assuming they can get into that backup, which fair enough would be a concern. But (if you believe them, which I admit is a huge if) according to Apple, they can’t actually get into that backup without your password. Meaning (again, if you believe them) this would be as safe and secure as shipping your own phone cross country after rebooting it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago

    I think the biggest concern for the average person would be feeling like the promises of Apple privacy would be severely compromised by this, regardless of whether that's the case.

    I didn't realize it at the time, but apparently all iCloud backups are encrypted? So either Apple was thinking of grabbing an unlock key from somewhere to decrypt before sending you the phone, or they were just going to include an encrypted backup file (or something) that you'd have to enter your password to unlock upon receipt (and then presumably wait for the decrypting).

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    none of the components are being used to assemble this self imposed panopticon sounded sinister because they were whitewashed through marketing -- that same device that can keep track of your movements and who you talk to was adopted by everyone because it was marketed as a fun and convenient way to connect with friends.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (1 child)

    I know people that assume apple can't access their cloud data without them. This breaks that assumption. Meaning any cloud can be used and given to anyone at Apples discretion.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago

    There's actually a setting you can enable if you want Apple to not hold your iCloud keys. A necessary side effect is that you can't recover access through Apple so you'll have to set up another form of account recovery.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    It's Apple...

    Not everyone with an iPhone is tech illiterate, but everyone who is tech illiterate has an iPhone

    Those people might think that the only way for their data to get from one phone to another, is them typing a password onto the phone physically.

    If they were offered this, they may realize that Apple could just clone their phone and everything on it.

    Don't forget how many social media savvy young celebrities had nudes leak a few years ago because they were iPhone users and iphones back everything up to the cloud by default. Most users most likely never realize that's happening.

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