▲ 505 ▼ When y'all gonna learn (sh.itjust.works) submitted 6 days ago by gigastasio@sh.itjust.works to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 49 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 91 points 6 days ago (2 children) Its not about converting the crackpots, its about pushing back on insane bullshit so others are less likely to become crackpots. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mac@mander.xyz 30 points 6 days ago This is why dissent is important. Visibility. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cb900f_bodhi@fedinsfw.app 7 points 6 days ago (2 children) Agreed. Where do you draw the line between downvoting and potentially feeding the trolls? I'm having a hard time with that. When someone is acting like an ignorant contrarian, I'm inclined to ignore them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 child) I start off with the logic, and when they double down on bullshit and toxicity I just keep spotlighting the terrible rhetoric with no substance. In a "like damn dude, your 3rd grade teacher would be disappointed in your writing" way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago* (1 child) You have to out dumb them and take away their argument. Vaccines cause autism? It’s caused by aliens to force us to build another pyramid so they can land their ship here to harvest the squirrels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) I hold myself to slightly higher standards. I'm not above insulting and throwing toxicity back, but I am honest about it to stop it from undercutting my argumentation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago I feel like there's a certain point where you're no longer pushing back against the crackpots and just arguing with a brick wall. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mac@mander.xyz 30 points 6 days ago This is why dissent is important. Visibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cb900f_bodhi@fedinsfw.app 7 points 6 days ago (2 children) Agreed. Where do you draw the line between downvoting and potentially feeding the trolls? I'm having a hard time with that. When someone is acting like an ignorant contrarian, I'm inclined to ignore them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 child) I start off with the logic, and when they double down on bullshit and toxicity I just keep spotlighting the terrible rhetoric with no substance. In a "like damn dude, your 3rd grade teacher would be disappointed in your writing" way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago* (1 child) You have to out dumb them and take away their argument. Vaccines cause autism? It’s caused by aliens to force us to build another pyramid so they can land their ship here to harvest the squirrels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) I hold myself to slightly higher standards. I'm not above insulting and throwing toxicity back, but I am honest about it to stop it from undercutting my argumentation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago I feel like there's a certain point where you're no longer pushing back against the crackpots and just arguing with a brick wall. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 child) I start off with the logic, and when they double down on bullshit and toxicity I just keep spotlighting the terrible rhetoric with no substance. In a "like damn dude, your 3rd grade teacher would be disappointed in your writing" way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago* (1 child) You have to out dumb them and take away their argument. Vaccines cause autism? It’s caused by aliens to force us to build another pyramid so they can land their ship here to harvest the squirrels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) I hold myself to slightly higher standards. I'm not above insulting and throwing toxicity back, but I am honest about it to stop it from undercutting my argumentation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago* (1 child) You have to out dumb them and take away their argument. Vaccines cause autism? It’s caused by aliens to force us to build another pyramid so they can land their ship here to harvest the squirrels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) I hold myself to slightly higher standards. I'm not above insulting and throwing toxicity back, but I am honest about it to stop it from undercutting my argumentation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) I hold myself to slightly higher standards. I'm not above insulting and throwing toxicity back, but I am honest about it to stop it from undercutting my argumentation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago I feel like there's a certain point where you're no longer pushing back against the crackpots and just arguing with a brick wall. permalink fedilink source parent
