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[–] 36 points 1 week ago (8 children)

People have surrendered their critical thinking skills. Truth is, AI disappearing overnight really would be disastrous, because a huge portion of humanity is utterly addicted to it and incompetent without it.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Uh, parse that out. Incompetent morons have always existed. How would it be disastrous to cut them off AI cold turkey?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (1 child)

    Very large sections of the workforce are no longer adequately trained in their field. This was not the case before AI. They need to be weaned off gradually while providing proper training, like a recovering addict.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (1 child)

    Why wouldnt they be trained properly and then given a job role? Are they being trained by other incompetent morons or AI?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (1 child)

    Yes, they are. In vast numbers.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    Seeing as how I live in the 3rd world, it appears my assertions continue to be correct: Western governing bodies have allowed technology outfits to outsource critical thinking leading to dire economic conditions. I would never claim that local conditions are much better, because populations outrank available jobs here. But AI will likely never assume the role of human labour in Asia simply because we don't treat it like a tool for lazy thinking or a profiteering-at-any-cost machine. We understand the necessity of human labour across multiple disciplines and industries, because even the most incompetent moron needs to eat and enjoy the fruits of their labour. Arrogance, ignorance and indulgence has gotten the better of the West because comfort vs. conviction is a forgotten battlefield for many. I'd feel bad for you lot, but you all did it to your selves. Good luck.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago

    I think there's definitely truth to this. Since the west de-industrialised and now largely deals in services, labour isn't really viewed as production of things of value, but just something you do to get a salary. People are utterly alienated from their work and increasingly care less about the quality of the outcome or the society-wide impacts of changing labour relations.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I'm perfectly okay with that outcome.

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    I mean I for one support hiring dumbasses. We're all dumbasses in some area, we've just got to help eachother out, so I help you in an area you're a dumbass about and then you help me bully HR or something.

    Let's just not pretend like we aren't dumbasses. Only the boss wins then.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I am completely okay with everyone dumb enough to outsource their critical thinking to AI having their lifestyle upended when the AI bubble pops

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    The AI bubble might pop, but just as the dotcom bubble didn't mean the end of the internet it won't mean the end of AI. LLMs (or whatever might supersede them) are here to stay.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I agree, but it will mean an end to highly subsidized LLM subscriptions and free access to any cloud LLM worth actually using for anything, which will make it much harder for the average person to rely on LLMs as much as this person.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    Just chatting with an LLM uses so few tokens I don't really see that changing

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    You sound like you have a subscription

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    Uh, that you sound like you have a metered subscription to some commercial LLM and you've thought about your usage. No need to be defensive. It's cool and trendy to pay someone to outsource your thinking and find new ways every day for your employer to need your intervention less.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    I genuinely didn't get where you were trying to go with that question.

    Honestly, I have very mixed feelings about LLMs. I don't think you're necessarily wrong, but I don't think refusing to use AI is going to help me or anyone else.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    @ammonium @davidagain I mean, refusing to eat sewage is healthy for you and prevents you from giving diseases to others. Just like me refusing to use xitter or bikbok keeps my brain wrinkly and keeps my data / money out of the hands of billionaire scum (as much as possible).

    You really can't go a minute without using gippity to look up anything you could have used kagi or ecosia for, thats going to give you the exact list of sites and forums that the llm (illegally) scraped and hallucinated ?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I can go months without AI just fine. Yes it does hallucinate, yes it can create slop, but that doesn't mean it's completely useless.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago

    I don't usually support "cull the weak" kinda mentalities... but cull the weak! Take away their AI and let the unemployed people who refuse to use AI take their jobs. I wanna see all these AI supporters go to the bottom of the barrel where they belong.

    You know, if we can't have UBI or a gift economy.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I think most people were totally incompetent before AI. It's just that now they have a tool that creates bullshit for them and an excuse when problems arise.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Some of the requests that come into my office now it's like, I know the person barely even knows what they're asking for, but they put it in the shape of a valid request so now I've got to expend energy to educate them on how what they're asking for doesn't make sense.

    If they'd just come to me with honest questions and a rough outline of what they wanted, I could've helped them, but because they insist on filtering everything through an LLM I've got to try to communicate through this thick, meaning-eroding medium. It's like trying to talk to someone through a mattress. Whatever happened to having the courage of your convictions. sigh

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    People have assumptions of what correct communication should be, and it generally has a minimum page length instead of minimum content amount.

    The worst cases I've seen is when they're trying to convince someone of something verbally, they get the agreement very quickly, but get stuck in convince mode rather than moving on since it shouldn't be that easy.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Maybe. It may be recent enough that people could lapse back to some level of thinking for themselves.

    Let's explore something much more dependent now and see if it holds up. What if smartphones disappeared? We still have cellular phones, the Nokia makes a comeback, but the use of smartphones, iPads, tablets, that whole concept is gone. You have to get on a computer to do any of the internet type interactions.

    Would people lose their minds?

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