▲ 144 ▼ Human labor is an animal product and therefore not vegan (feddit.org) submitted 1 week ago by gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world 84 comments fedilink hide all child comments ... unless the person works voluntarily, that is.
[–] Gullable@programming.dev -4 points 1 week ago (1 child) Veganism is extremely capitalistic, because it relies on supply and demand to change the amount of animal suffering that is/was produced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] skunk@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Veganism is simply not taking part in animal suffering, you're thinking of "animal liberation" which is the active part. And yes one way to reduce animal suffering is to leverage basic market laws about supply and demand. But buying and selling isn't capitalism. People in every socialist nation ever have bought and sold stuff, and when stuff wasn't in demand the supply reacted accordingly. If you want an introductory book I can recommend some (earnest, not trying to be mean, it just seems like you don't know the definition of the terms you're using). But there is also direct action, adoption of rescued animals and maybe some other stuff I can't remember right now that people that take part in animal liberation do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gullable@programming.dev -3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Buying and selling with a currency is capitalism. If I would just get a meal ticket from the communist party, I might trade away more of my belongings, but thats not the same market vegans try to address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] skunk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago This is not how communism works, how any socialist society operates, I'm sorry but you've completely fallen for the propaganda and are living outside of reality. The fact that "Buying and selling with a currency" is not capitalism is also very clear from the fact that we were buying and selling with a currency under feudalism, under slavery, currency predates capitalism by millenia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skunk@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Veganism is simply not taking part in animal suffering, you're thinking of "animal liberation" which is the active part. And yes one way to reduce animal suffering is to leverage basic market laws about supply and demand. But buying and selling isn't capitalism. People in every socialist nation ever have bought and sold stuff, and when stuff wasn't in demand the supply reacted accordingly. If you want an introductory book I can recommend some (earnest, not trying to be mean, it just seems like you don't know the definition of the terms you're using). But there is also direct action, adoption of rescued animals and maybe some other stuff I can't remember right now that people that take part in animal liberation do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gullable@programming.dev -3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Buying and selling with a currency is capitalism. If I would just get a meal ticket from the communist party, I might trade away more of my belongings, but thats not the same market vegans try to address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] skunk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago This is not how communism works, how any socialist society operates, I'm sorry but you've completely fallen for the propaganda and are living outside of reality. The fact that "Buying and selling with a currency" is not capitalism is also very clear from the fact that we were buying and selling with a currency under feudalism, under slavery, currency predates capitalism by millenia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gullable@programming.dev -3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Buying and selling with a currency is capitalism. If I would just get a meal ticket from the communist party, I might trade away more of my belongings, but thats not the same market vegans try to address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] skunk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago This is not how communism works, how any socialist society operates, I'm sorry but you've completely fallen for the propaganda and are living outside of reality. The fact that "Buying and selling with a currency" is not capitalism is also very clear from the fact that we were buying and selling with a currency under feudalism, under slavery, currency predates capitalism by millenia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skunk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago This is not how communism works, how any socialist society operates, I'm sorry but you've completely fallen for the propaganda and are living outside of reality. The fact that "Buying and selling with a currency" is not capitalism is also very clear from the fact that we were buying and selling with a currency under feudalism, under slavery, currency predates capitalism by millenia. permalink fedilink source parent