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Flock misread license plates in 71% of the alerts it sent to police in one California town (www.businessinsider.com)
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In 2023 and 2024, Flock sent 1,427 alerts to the Roseville [CA] Police Department.

Roseville police found that Flock misread license plates in 71% of those alerts.

Max Isaacs, director of technology law and policy with the Policing Project at New York University's School of Law, described Roseville's misread data as "stunning."

"A 71% misread rate is really beyond the pale," he told Business Insider, referring to Roseville's reported error rate for stolen and felony vehicle alerts. He added that "in the absence of concrete rules that directly address the problem of misreads, this technology is not safe to be deployed in communities."

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[–] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

I highly doubt a single flock camera would scan thousands of plates per second lol

There is no good reason for sending images of plates to the cloud for alpr when the camera can do it locally

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  • [+] -12 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    I did not know there was only one single Flock camera in the city of 150 000 people, or in California, or the USA in general. lol.

    it has cameras in more than 6,000 communities across the country, and it touts more than 20 billion vehicle reads each month.

    Oh, kinda looks like they have more. 20 billion reads a month, huh. That's 7610 scan a second. Fancy that.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Flock cameras process the images locally for plate recognition. It’s only after the image of the plate has been converted into text that the plate number (or in this instance the number it has misinterpreted) is sent to AWS for matches and alerts. The issue sounds like it’s at the individual camera level.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 weeks ago* (3 children)

    ...yes?

    The cameras around the US scan 7000 plates per second, trying to figure out what they say with 8000 different possible plate designs around the country, and those results are then matched to a database of stolen vehicles and other plates , which there's roughly 600k reported stolen in the US each year so. That database is going to be massive.

    That means every second, 7000 strings of letters and numbers OCR'd at unknown conditions and accuracy are being compared to hundreds of thousands of stolen plates. They are guaranteed to get a number of "matches" constantly, most of them from reads that were not accurate.

    And specifically because they aren't sent anywhere, nobody can double check the picture to see if the camera got it anywhere right at all.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    What does any of this have to do with the cameras from one specific town being wrong a majority of the time? Not that it would be better if it wad the average across the nation. It would be much, much worse actually.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    The cameras around the US scan 7000 plates per second

    Yes the entire system saving that text, and maybe a still image handles that many... But the single camera taking each photo where the actual OCR processing is done ON THE CAMERA HARDWARE ITSELF only needs to handle maybe one or two each second... And only if it is looking at a busy road. At the distances these cameras can process, most are not handling a lot simultaneously. And very busy roads will have different hardware than the lower end camera systems used in most places.

    You HAVE to purposely be trying NOT to understand any of the responses to you here. No one could possibly be that stupid unintentionally.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    I don't think you understand their point. The point is that the OCR can be done on a distributed system, because a distributed system is what the cameras already are.

    My biggest contention with this claim is whether the computers onboard the license plate readers are actually capable of doing this with solar power and battery capacity, but considering I'd rather they didn't exist anyway...

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