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Centrist bullshit (discuss.online)
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[–] 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

This is literally Chuck Schumer loser propaganda, stop repeating it. All it took to get conservative Maine to abandon Republicans was to put a rustic white male face on dem soc policy (Turned out the rustic white male was a rapist, so let's maybe be careful about future rustic white male selection). Talarico is wildly and authentically popular in Texas. Working class policy can win everywhere, so long as voters can see themselves in the candidate.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago

    I want something to fucking believe in. Look at Trump. He gave millions something they could identify with- a fat rapist pedophile slob who mocks disabled people.

    Surely we could do that for affordable groceries, no more random invasions, and health care?

    Surely?

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  • [–] -4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

    This is literally Chuck Schumer loser propaganda

    No, it's reality. Don't try to hit me with your dumbass boogeyman bullshit. My opinion doesn't come from Schumer, it comes from understanding the the heavily democratic, urban constituency of NYC is NOT THE FUCKING SAME as everywhere else in the country. Only an absolute moron could possibly believe that.

    Also, it's pretty pathetic to see "progressives" give up on social issues altogether. You encouraging the abandonment of minorities, gay people, transgender people etc is sickening. Keep your phoney version of "morality" to yourself.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    Who? Mamdani marched in the pride parade last month

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  • [–] 0 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    No, I wasn't talking to Mamdani on this message board. I was talking to the "progressive" who advocated we drop social issues and focus only on economic ones.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago*

    I never said anything about dropping social issues, you brought "giving up on social issues" as a separate complaint in your reply to me and I ignored it for being disingenuous bait. It's still disingenuous bait, nobody in US politics fights for social issues harder than a dem soc, because social issues are inseparable from economic issues.

    Who do you think would fight harder for social issue? Kamala Harris or AOC? Karen Bass or Zohran Mamdani? Haley Stevens or Abdul El-Sayed?

    You're full of shit if you think dem socs are weak on social issues.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 hours ago* (1 child)

    Have you ever lived in NYC? It's not an outlier for US politics in any manner. The immigrants trend conservative, as immigrants in the US often do. There are many entire neighborhoods that are deep red enclaves (Orthodox, conservative immigrant communities, cop / firefighter communities like City Island / Seaside / Staten Island). Multiple NYC mayors have been Republicans, one of them was RUDOLF FUCKING GIULIANI. It's the beating heart of global capitalism. Mamdani came out of NYC's most progressive / leftist region of northeast Brooklyn and western Queens and would have never been elected mayor if he hadn't found a way to communicate working class values to the entire swath of US political identities.

    You can repeat his success anywhere in the US if you combine his platform with a relatable local identity and a strong ground campaign. Sorry if that freaks you out, it really shouldn't.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago* (1 child)

    Sorry if that freaks you out, it really shouldn’t.

    Or we can stop pretending that what works on the NYC constituency will work on the entire country. We can ALSO stop pretending that Mamdani is the only type of Democrat to win an election - which again, he did in a race the Democrat candidate was heavily favored to win. NYC electing a Republican mayor in the Trump era is ridiculous. It just would not happen.

    Giuliana back then was NOT the Trump-era dingbat he became.

    I'm so tired of this "one-size-fits-all" lazy bullshit. Democrats are generally friendlier to workers' rights than Republicans, that's really not arguable. Yet, these people are voting against their own interests. Which means Republicans are gaining ground with their culture war bullshit. That's why Democrats have lost when they did because even if they do support collective bargaining, workers' rights or higher minimum wage people STILL vote for Republicans because of their culture war nonsense.

    The economy was undoubtedly better under Biden than it was under Trump and we STILL have to hear this bullshit that about Democrats are the "real" enemy.

    What "freaks me out" is losing control on this country entirely, which you is what will happen if we continue to be inflexible dumbasses who demand absolute purity "or else".

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago

    It's hard to follow the disperate threads of your rant here but your core argument seems to still be that a working class agenda can't win in the majority of the US, which is just wrong. And elsewhere in this thread you're associating dem soc working class politics with an abandonment of social issues, which is also just wrong.

    If the rise of a cohesive left politics in this country truly worries you I wouldn't fret, I'm sure the DNC and Israel will still be generating corporatist ghouls for you to enthusiastically pull their lever, for many more years to come.

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