▲ 1490 ▼ Linux source code leaked (media.piefed.zip) submitted 1 day ago by linsenchip@piefed.zip to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 144 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Una@europe.pub 55 points 1 day ago (2 children) Is FreeBSD safe to use? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 117 points 1 day ago (4 children) Yes but you risk becoming insufferable in casual conversation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 day ago (1 child) It’s alright, we’re already Linux users, we’re used to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 day ago Yes but you will be insufferable even to us linux users permalink fedilink source parent [–] bklyn@piefed.social 29 points 1 day ago (1 child) Not as insufferable as those who use ExpensiveBSD (aka macOS) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children) I really appreciate ExpensiveBSD's hardware. the software though... oh my. ZSH permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Not gonna lie: I really like both. I like variety in my life. I also really like fedora on my old iMac. It makes for an excellent Plex server. But macOS is getting much less impressive with every iteration, and as cool as Apple Silicon is, I’m less and less attracted to it because of its narrowing support for software. But Apple has a new CEO now, and I’m interested to see what direction he’s gonna take the company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) I'd love to have Mac hardware with different Linux options (with mature power management). But I guess before that will happen, other CPU manufacturers might catch up. Fine by me as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The Asahi Linux Project has made a great deal of progress on that front. They’ve got it running on up to the M2, with the M3 in development. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yeah, but I got an M4 😭 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) Me too, buddy, me too Edit: but their development pace is accelerating pretty quickly, so an M4 build should be available much more quickly than their past builds have been available. Considering their development curve, I think the middle of next year? With an M5 build about nine months after that. Each Apple Silicon generation, their builds are coming out quicker and quicker. And, for most Mac users, the Lennox option is best for older Max anyway, so the latest generation is less of a pressing matter. macOS is still a pretty good BSD distro. The worst thing about it is that it is really locked down corporate distro, not that it lacks POSIX and/or FOSS/linux interoperability. It’s not like we’re dealing with Windows here… the “ickyness” of it is a matter of principle, not actual technical capability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) If expensiveBSD laptops had reasonably easily replaceable batteries I’d love to get an old one for Debian. But they don’t so I use old Thinkpads when I want a laptop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* They were easy to replace when the hardware was meh 🙄 But I really want to check out framework. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cthulhupunk0@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* systemd users hate this one trick! permalink fedilink source parent [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Don't worry, us Arch users have that covered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago Amateur glares in NixOS permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 day ago (2 children) Even FreeBSD is too well known. Gotta go with Plan 9 from Bell Labs to be obscure enough for security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (1 child) If you want obscure, you can always go with A/UX running on an bunch of Apple Quadra 700s. If it can run Jurassic Park, it’s good enough for me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) If you want to go most obscure, write your own OS in assembly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago Nah, I'll just use Menuet or Kolibri. That's too much work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 1 point 1 day ago Still too well-known. Better go with OpenVMS if security is your goal (unironically on this point, but it is a pain to use). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 117 points 1 day ago (4 children) Yes but you risk becoming insufferable in casual conversation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 day ago (1 child) It’s alright, we’re already Linux users, we’re used to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 day ago Yes but you will be insufferable even to us linux users permalink fedilink source parent [–] bklyn@piefed.social 29 points 1 day ago (1 child) Not as insufferable as those who use ExpensiveBSD (aka macOS) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children) I really appreciate ExpensiveBSD's hardware. the software though... oh my. ZSH permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Not gonna lie: I really like both. I like variety in my life. I also really like fedora on my old iMac. It makes for an excellent Plex server. But macOS is getting much less impressive with every iteration, and as cool as Apple Silicon is, I’m less and less attracted to it because of its narrowing support for software. But Apple has a new CEO now, and I’m interested to see what direction he’s gonna take the company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) I'd love to have Mac hardware with different Linux options (with mature power management). But I guess before that will happen, other CPU manufacturers might catch up. Fine by me as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The Asahi Linux Project has made a great deal of progress on that front. They’ve got it running on up to the M2, with the M3 in development. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yeah, but I got an M4 😭 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) Me too, buddy, me too Edit: but their development pace is accelerating pretty quickly, so an M4 build should be available much more quickly than their past builds have been available. Considering their development curve, I think the middle of next year? With an M5 build about nine months after that. Each Apple Silicon generation, their builds are coming out quicker and quicker. And, for most Mac users, the Lennox option is best for older Max anyway, so the latest generation is less of a pressing matter. macOS is still a pretty good BSD distro. The worst thing about it is that it is really locked down corporate distro, not that it lacks POSIX and/or FOSS/linux interoperability. It’s not like we’re dealing with Windows here… the “ickyness” of it is a matter of principle, not actual technical capability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) If expensiveBSD laptops had reasonably easily replaceable batteries I’d love to get an old one for Debian. But they don’t so I use old Thinkpads when I want a laptop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* They were easy to replace when the hardware was meh 🙄 But I really want to check out framework. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cthulhupunk0@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* systemd users hate this one trick! permalink fedilink source parent [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Don't worry, us Arch users have that covered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago Amateur glares in NixOS permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 day ago (1 child) It’s alright, we’re already Linux users, we’re used to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 day ago Yes but you will be insufferable even to us linux users permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 day ago Yes but you will be insufferable even to us linux users permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bklyn@piefed.social 29 points 1 day ago (1 child) Not as insufferable as those who use ExpensiveBSD (aka macOS) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children) I really appreciate ExpensiveBSD's hardware. the software though... oh my. ZSH permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Not gonna lie: I really like both. I like variety in my life. I also really like fedora on my old iMac. It makes for an excellent Plex server. But macOS is getting much less impressive with every iteration, and as cool as Apple Silicon is, I’m less and less attracted to it because of its narrowing support for software. But Apple has a new CEO now, and I’m interested to see what direction he’s gonna take the company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) I'd love to have Mac hardware with different Linux options (with mature power management). But I guess before that will happen, other CPU manufacturers might catch up. Fine by me as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The Asahi Linux Project has made a great deal of progress on that front. They’ve got it running on up to the M2, with the M3 in development. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yeah, but I got an M4 😭 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) Me too, buddy, me too Edit: but their development pace is accelerating pretty quickly, so an M4 build should be available much more quickly than their past builds have been available. Considering their development curve, I think the middle of next year? With an M5 build about nine months after that. Each Apple Silicon generation, their builds are coming out quicker and quicker. And, for most Mac users, the Lennox option is best for older Max anyway, so the latest generation is less of a pressing matter. macOS is still a pretty good BSD distro. The worst thing about it is that it is really locked down corporate distro, not that it lacks POSIX and/or FOSS/linux interoperability. It’s not like we’re dealing with Windows here… the “ickyness” of it is a matter of principle, not actual technical capability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) If expensiveBSD laptops had reasonably easily replaceable batteries I’d love to get an old one for Debian. But they don’t so I use old Thinkpads when I want a laptop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* They were easy to replace when the hardware was meh 🙄 But I really want to check out framework. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children) I really appreciate ExpensiveBSD's hardware. the software though... oh my. ZSH permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Not gonna lie: I really like both. I like variety in my life. I also really like fedora on my old iMac. It makes for an excellent Plex server. But macOS is getting much less impressive with every iteration, and as cool as Apple Silicon is, I’m less and less attracted to it because of its narrowing support for software. But Apple has a new CEO now, and I’m interested to see what direction he’s gonna take the company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) I'd love to have Mac hardware with different Linux options (with mature power management). But I guess before that will happen, other CPU manufacturers might catch up. Fine by me as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The Asahi Linux Project has made a great deal of progress on that front. They’ve got it running on up to the M2, with the M3 in development. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yeah, but I got an M4 😭 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) Me too, buddy, me too Edit: but their development pace is accelerating pretty quickly, so an M4 build should be available much more quickly than their past builds have been available. Considering their development curve, I think the middle of next year? With an M5 build about nine months after that. Each Apple Silicon generation, their builds are coming out quicker and quicker. And, for most Mac users, the Lennox option is best for older Max anyway, so the latest generation is less of a pressing matter. macOS is still a pretty good BSD distro. The worst thing about it is that it is really locked down corporate distro, not that it lacks POSIX and/or FOSS/linux interoperability. It’s not like we’re dealing with Windows here… the “ickyness” of it is a matter of principle, not actual technical capability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) If expensiveBSD laptops had reasonably easily replaceable batteries I’d love to get an old one for Debian. But they don’t so I use old Thinkpads when I want a laptop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* They were easy to replace when the hardware was meh 🙄 But I really want to check out framework. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bklyn@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Not gonna lie: I really like both. I like variety in my life. I also really like fedora on my old iMac. It makes for an excellent Plex server. But macOS is getting much less impressive with every iteration, and as cool as Apple Silicon is, I’m less and less attracted to it because of its narrowing support for software. But Apple has a new CEO now, and I’m interested to see what direction he’s gonna take the company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) I'd love to have Mac hardware with different Linux options (with mature power management). But I guess before that will happen, other CPU manufacturers might catch up. Fine by me as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The Asahi Linux Project has made a great deal of progress on that front. They’ve got it running on up to the M2, with the M3 in development. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yeah, but I got an M4 😭 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) Me too, buddy, me too Edit: but their development pace is accelerating pretty quickly, so an M4 build should be available much more quickly than their past builds have been available. Considering their development curve, I think the middle of next year? With an M5 build about nine months after that. Each Apple Silicon generation, their builds are coming out quicker and quicker. And, for most Mac users, the Lennox option is best for older Max anyway, so the latest generation is less of a pressing matter. macOS is still a pretty good BSD distro. The worst thing about it is that it is really locked down corporate distro, not that it lacks POSIX and/or FOSS/linux interoperability. It’s not like we’re dealing with Windows here… the “ickyness” of it is a matter of principle, not actual technical capability. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) I'd love to have Mac hardware with different Linux options (with mature power management). But I guess before that will happen, other CPU manufacturers might catch up. Fine by me as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The Asahi Linux Project has made a great deal of progress on that front. They’ve got it running on up to the M2, with the M3 in development. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yeah, but I got an M4 😭 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) Me too, buddy, me too Edit: but their development pace is accelerating pretty quickly, so an M4 build should be available much more quickly than their past builds have been available. Considering their development curve, I think the middle of next year? With an M5 build about nine months after that. Each Apple Silicon generation, their builds are coming out quicker and quicker. And, for most Mac users, the Lennox option is best for older Max anyway, so the latest generation is less of a pressing matter. macOS is still a pretty good BSD distro. The worst thing about it is that it is really locked down corporate distro, not that it lacks POSIX and/or FOSS/linux interoperability. It’s not like we’re dealing with Windows here… the “ickyness” of it is a matter of principle, not actual technical capability. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bklyn@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The Asahi Linux Project has made a great deal of progress on that front. They’ve got it running on up to the M2, with the M3 in development. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yeah, but I got an M4 😭 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) Me too, buddy, me too Edit: but their development pace is accelerating pretty quickly, so an M4 build should be available much more quickly than their past builds have been available. Considering their development curve, I think the middle of next year? With an M5 build about nine months after that. Each Apple Silicon generation, their builds are coming out quicker and quicker. And, for most Mac users, the Lennox option is best for older Max anyway, so the latest generation is less of a pressing matter. macOS is still a pretty good BSD distro. The worst thing about it is that it is really locked down corporate distro, not that it lacks POSIX and/or FOSS/linux interoperability. It’s not like we’re dealing with Windows here… the “ickyness” of it is a matter of principle, not actual technical capability. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Yeah, but I got an M4 😭 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) Me too, buddy, me too Edit: but their development pace is accelerating pretty quickly, so an M4 build should be available much more quickly than their past builds have been available. Considering their development curve, I think the middle of next year? With an M5 build about nine months after that. Each Apple Silicon generation, their builds are coming out quicker and quicker. And, for most Mac users, the Lennox option is best for older Max anyway, so the latest generation is less of a pressing matter. macOS is still a pretty good BSD distro. The worst thing about it is that it is really locked down corporate distro, not that it lacks POSIX and/or FOSS/linux interoperability. It’s not like we’re dealing with Windows here… the “ickyness” of it is a matter of principle, not actual technical capability. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bklyn@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) Me too, buddy, me too Edit: but their development pace is accelerating pretty quickly, so an M4 build should be available much more quickly than their past builds have been available. Considering their development curve, I think the middle of next year? With an M5 build about nine months after that. Each Apple Silicon generation, their builds are coming out quicker and quicker. And, for most Mac users, the Lennox option is best for older Max anyway, so the latest generation is less of a pressing matter. macOS is still a pretty good BSD distro. The worst thing about it is that it is really locked down corporate distro, not that it lacks POSIX and/or FOSS/linux interoperability. It’s not like we’re dealing with Windows here… the “ickyness” of it is a matter of principle, not actual technical capability. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) If expensiveBSD laptops had reasonably easily replaceable batteries I’d love to get an old one for Debian. But they don’t so I use old Thinkpads when I want a laptop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* They were easy to replace when the hardware was meh 🙄 But I really want to check out framework. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* They were easy to replace when the hardware was meh 🙄 But I really want to check out framework. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cthulhupunk0@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* systemd users hate this one trick! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Don't worry, us Arch users have that covered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago Amateur glares in NixOS permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago Amateur glares in NixOS permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 day ago (2 children) Even FreeBSD is too well known. Gotta go with Plan 9 from Bell Labs to be obscure enough for security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bklyn@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (1 child) If you want obscure, you can always go with A/UX running on an bunch of Apple Quadra 700s. If it can run Jurassic Park, it’s good enough for me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) If you want to go most obscure, write your own OS in assembly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago Nah, I'll just use Menuet or Kolibri. That's too much work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 1 point 1 day ago Still too well-known. Better go with OpenVMS if security is your goal (unironically on this point, but it is a pain to use). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bklyn@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (1 child) If you want obscure, you can always go with A/UX running on an bunch of Apple Quadra 700s. If it can run Jurassic Park, it’s good enough for me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) If you want to go most obscure, write your own OS in assembly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago Nah, I'll just use Menuet or Kolibri. That's too much work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) If you want to go most obscure, write your own OS in assembly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago Nah, I'll just use Menuet or Kolibri. That's too much work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago Nah, I'll just use Menuet or Kolibri. That's too much work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 1 point 1 day ago Still too well-known. Better go with OpenVMS if security is your goal (unironically on this point, but it is a pain to use). permalink fedilink source parent