▲ 545 ▼ US accuses American of allegedly wiping his phone using a 'duress' password during border search (techcrunch.com) submitted 3 days ago by madeindex@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 135 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49853131 Feels to me like GrapheneOS did exactly what it should, passing the US border test with flying colours! Funny part about this lawsuit: “With a little planning ahead of time, you can always download the data you need once you get to where you’re going,”
[–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) why are they so concerned about what you OWN permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) Can't control people without controlling things. And vice versa. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) Imagine being on a de-federated instance like lemmy and crying about how a COP in AMERICA could not harass a person successfully.Go back to meta choom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago ...Who tf was complaining? You're fighting ghosts. permalink fedilink source parent [+] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone -20 points 1 day ago (5 children) What if you OWNed some child pornography. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago What if I am a law abiding citizen? Should I relinquish my rights against unwarranted search and seizure because of 'woulda coulda shoulda'? If your rights can so easily be ignored due to some hypothetical scenario, then you never really had rights to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago So are you saying you'd be ok with your personal property being searched without a warrant on the suspicion that you might own child porn? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children) What if you owned: weed/drugs, illegal firearms, items which could be used for potential murder, negative opinions about the fascist government? This argument is shallow to the point where fascism is what you're advocating here for. So what, if you did own something thats not law abiding - without any credible proof there is nothing there, and non of anybody's interest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 day ago Surveillance is fascism... it is clear to me that neither do you understand the word nor do you know about the most basic features of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -4 points 1 day ago Lets go by your logic then, What IF a cop plants contraband or CASM pictures onto your device? permalink fedilink source parent [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 day ago (1 child) not bro resorting to whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Begone Fed permalink fedilink source parent [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago ???? classic statistic apologist rhetoric I'm not against holding pedos accountable, I'm against searching a man/woman/non binary's phone without proving suspicion of OWNing child pornography.. please educate yourself permalink fedilink source parent [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago Privacy isn't keeping everything about your life secret from everybody. Its about having control over who in your life gets to know what. Its the pretext for honest communication. Extreme surveillance will lead to people self-censoring themselves to please the fascist state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) Can't control people without controlling things. And vice versa. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) Imagine being on a de-federated instance like lemmy and crying about how a COP in AMERICA could not harass a person successfully.Go back to meta choom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago ...Who tf was complaining? You're fighting ghosts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) Imagine being on a de-federated instance like lemmy and crying about how a COP in AMERICA could not harass a person successfully.Go back to meta choom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago ...Who tf was complaining? You're fighting ghosts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago ...Who tf was complaining? You're fighting ghosts. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone -20 points 1 day ago (5 children) What if you OWNed some child pornography. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago What if I am a law abiding citizen? Should I relinquish my rights against unwarranted search and seizure because of 'woulda coulda shoulda'? If your rights can so easily be ignored due to some hypothetical scenario, then you never really had rights to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago So are you saying you'd be ok with your personal property being searched without a warrant on the suspicion that you might own child porn? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children) What if you owned: weed/drugs, illegal firearms, items which could be used for potential murder, negative opinions about the fascist government? This argument is shallow to the point where fascism is what you're advocating here for. So what, if you did own something thats not law abiding - without any credible proof there is nothing there, and non of anybody's interest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 day ago Surveillance is fascism... it is clear to me that neither do you understand the word nor do you know about the most basic features of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -4 points 1 day ago Lets go by your logic then, What IF a cop plants contraband or CASM pictures onto your device? permalink fedilink source parent [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 day ago (1 child) not bro resorting to whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Begone Fed permalink fedilink source parent [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago ???? classic statistic apologist rhetoric I'm not against holding pedos accountable, I'm against searching a man/woman/non binary's phone without proving suspicion of OWNing child pornography.. please educate yourself permalink fedilink source parent [–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago Privacy isn't keeping everything about your life secret from everybody. Its about having control over who in your life gets to know what. Its the pretext for honest communication. Extreme surveillance will lead to people self-censoring themselves to please the fascist state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago What if I am a law abiding citizen? Should I relinquish my rights against unwarranted search and seizure because of 'woulda coulda shoulda'? If your rights can so easily be ignored due to some hypothetical scenario, then you never really had rights to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago So are you saying you'd be ok with your personal property being searched without a warrant on the suspicion that you might own child porn? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children) What if you owned: weed/drugs, illegal firearms, items which could be used for potential murder, negative opinions about the fascist government? This argument is shallow to the point where fascism is what you're advocating here for. So what, if you did own something thats not law abiding - without any credible proof there is nothing there, and non of anybody's interest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 day ago Surveillance is fascism... it is clear to me that neither do you understand the word nor do you know about the most basic features of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -4 points 1 day ago Lets go by your logic then, What IF a cop plants contraband or CASM pictures onto your device? permalink fedilink source parent [–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 day ago (1 child) not bro resorting to whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Begone Fed permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 day ago Surveillance is fascism... it is clear to me that neither do you understand the word nor do you know about the most basic features of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -4 points 1 day ago Lets go by your logic then, What IF a cop plants contraband or CASM pictures onto your device? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 day ago (1 child) not bro resorting to whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Begone Fed permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slumdogego@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago ???? classic statistic apologist rhetoric I'm not against holding pedos accountable, I'm against searching a man/woman/non binary's phone without proving suspicion of OWNing child pornography.. please educate yourself permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago Privacy isn't keeping everything about your life secret from everybody. Its about having control over who in your life gets to know what. Its the pretext for honest communication. Extreme surveillance will lead to people self-censoring themselves to please the fascist state. permalink fedilink source parent