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[–] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Much of these are already laws (or close to it.)

Your drivers license isn't enough, you also need a NICs check.

You do have to appear in person, though "original citizenship docs" isn't a requirement, naturalized citizens can legally buy guns.

If your name on the Form 4473 (or Form 1, Form 4, etc) isn't an exact match to your ID, you indeed cannot buy the gun. Same with your street address actually.

You can "apply" by mail if that means "buy online," but you still have to get it shipped to an FFL and do your NICs check and present ID in person.

If you've lost your birth cert/SSN card, you do have to get those replaced at your cost (iirc you may get a few free SSN card replacements). You don't need them to buy the gun but you do for carry permits in most states that still require permits to carry.

If the government does make a clerical mistake, it is up to you to correct it. Clerical errors here are rare though, it's usually you who made an error on the forms.

There is no deadline, nor election, but you will have to resubmit, which sucks for like a Form 1 at an 8mo wait right now, that's another 8mo to wait just because you filled the form out wrong. At least as of recently it isn't $200 to submit one, but still.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    For 4473 address: you typically only need some proof of government-recognized address. Lots of stores will accept a fishing or hunting license, which can themselves be acquired without proof of address.

    The "clerical mistakes" around NICS are an absolute nightmare from what i hear... the government digs their heels in hard once you're in the database. The law does allow you to recover your legal costs, but ONLY if you get a judgement in your favor. Usually they drop the case immediately before judgements, and you're on the hook for your $10k+ costs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    https://www.fastbound.com/faq/form-4473-supplemental-government-issued-documentation/

    This is the software most FFLs use for complying with ATF's various regulations (Fastbound). As you can see, you still need the photo ID (or passport) regardless of if you also need a hunting license because you've moved since you got your ID and never updated, but the correct address is required to be on your state issued alternate documents if that's what was insufficient with your photo ID.

    Yeah they're for sure not fun, but they're not always that bad. Recently they had an error on the NFA forms for anyone who had a "jr, sr, II, III," etc behind their name, just had to wait for them to clear that up and reapply, and it was all good. Some people for sure have worse errors happen though and you're right that they can be hard and expensive to clear.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    One more thing to consider is the overlap of people pushing to get rid of these current firearm restrictions while supporting things like the SAVE act.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    Honestly most of the hypocrisy is just the gang warfare we've backed ourselves into, "can't go against The Party™" so when they say some dumb bullshit everyone "has" to pick a side based on who said it instead if individually deciding what they believe for themselves.

    Also a large chunk is frankly barely informed. I know some people who "support voter ID," and supposedly support the SAVE act, but then you dig into it and find out they support using a State ID (like most people) and when you tell them what the save act is they do see it as overreach, but all they'd known was some R they trust said it "was for 'voter ID'" and then their brain fills in what they take to mean "voter ID" in place of what SAVE actually is, so then they "support" something they're actually against.

    It's not great.

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