β² 503 βΌ "Yeah I use Ubuntu for privacy reasons" (lemmy.wtf) submitted 1 week ago by IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 85 comments fedilink hide all child comments also this insane hiring process
[β] Polaris@jlai.lu 17 points 1 week ago (1 child) "Your private data is extremely important to us, as we make money from it", how the hell do they manage to be this shady x((( permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) It's a for-profit corporation, always was. The only thing changed is people started to actually care about it a bit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Polaris@jlai.lu 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) no problems with being for-profit, the problem is getting money from selling the private date of those using your product permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (2 children) It is a problem for being for-profit. When you're for-profit, you're seeking profit, and personal data gives you that profit. No way to not connect the dots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Polaris@jlai.lu 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) You can entirely be for-profit and earn your profit without the reselling of personal data. It was more common before net 2.0, for example Google first served you one or two links of ads based on your search. No saving and forwarding user data, just simply "for X amount, your webpage will be displayed to users searching Y keyword" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago Google was at the beginning of the market to sell the data, it didn't exist before. Obviously they didn't try to scrape every ounce of it before they made (not them specifically, but they played a big role in it) a market to sell it on. The second it became profitable, they started doing it. You can theoretically be for-profit and don't do anti-human shit, but that will be going directly against the only reason for-profit companies exist: maximising shareholder value. So those companies either don't survive or change for the worse. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 child) I have bad news for you, non-profits need money too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) If you can't understand what the difference between the for-profit organization, and a non-profit with operational cost, you need to go way back to the basics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago Um... I do understand but I am not sure you do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) It's a for-profit corporation, always was. The only thing changed is people started to actually care about it a bit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Polaris@jlai.lu 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) no problems with being for-profit, the problem is getting money from selling the private date of those using your product permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (2 children) It is a problem for being for-profit. When you're for-profit, you're seeking profit, and personal data gives you that profit. No way to not connect the dots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Polaris@jlai.lu 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) You can entirely be for-profit and earn your profit without the reselling of personal data. It was more common before net 2.0, for example Google first served you one or two links of ads based on your search. No saving and forwarding user data, just simply "for X amount, your webpage will be displayed to users searching Y keyword" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago Google was at the beginning of the market to sell the data, it didn't exist before. Obviously they didn't try to scrape every ounce of it before they made (not them specifically, but they played a big role in it) a market to sell it on. The second it became profitable, they started doing it. You can theoretically be for-profit and don't do anti-human shit, but that will be going directly against the only reason for-profit companies exist: maximising shareholder value. So those companies either don't survive or change for the worse. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 child) I have bad news for you, non-profits need money too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) If you can't understand what the difference between the for-profit organization, and a non-profit with operational cost, you need to go way back to the basics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago Um... I do understand but I am not sure you do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Polaris@jlai.lu 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) no problems with being for-profit, the problem is getting money from selling the private date of those using your product permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (2 children) It is a problem for being for-profit. When you're for-profit, you're seeking profit, and personal data gives you that profit. No way to not connect the dots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Polaris@jlai.lu 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) You can entirely be for-profit and earn your profit without the reselling of personal data. It was more common before net 2.0, for example Google first served you one or two links of ads based on your search. No saving and forwarding user data, just simply "for X amount, your webpage will be displayed to users searching Y keyword" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago Google was at the beginning of the market to sell the data, it didn't exist before. Obviously they didn't try to scrape every ounce of it before they made (not them specifically, but they played a big role in it) a market to sell it on. The second it became profitable, they started doing it. You can theoretically be for-profit and don't do anti-human shit, but that will be going directly against the only reason for-profit companies exist: maximising shareholder value. So those companies either don't survive or change for the worse. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 child) I have bad news for you, non-profits need money too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) If you can't understand what the difference between the for-profit organization, and a non-profit with operational cost, you need to go way back to the basics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago Um... I do understand but I am not sure you do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (2 children) It is a problem for being for-profit. When you're for-profit, you're seeking profit, and personal data gives you that profit. No way to not connect the dots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Polaris@jlai.lu 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) You can entirely be for-profit and earn your profit without the reselling of personal data. It was more common before net 2.0, for example Google first served you one or two links of ads based on your search. No saving and forwarding user data, just simply "for X amount, your webpage will be displayed to users searching Y keyword" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago Google was at the beginning of the market to sell the data, it didn't exist before. Obviously they didn't try to scrape every ounce of it before they made (not them specifically, but they played a big role in it) a market to sell it on. The second it became profitable, they started doing it. You can theoretically be for-profit and don't do anti-human shit, but that will be going directly against the only reason for-profit companies exist: maximising shareholder value. So those companies either don't survive or change for the worse. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 child) I have bad news for you, non-profits need money too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) If you can't understand what the difference between the for-profit organization, and a non-profit with operational cost, you need to go way back to the basics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago Um... I do understand but I am not sure you do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Polaris@jlai.lu 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) You can entirely be for-profit and earn your profit without the reselling of personal data. It was more common before net 2.0, for example Google first served you one or two links of ads based on your search. No saving and forwarding user data, just simply "for X amount, your webpage will be displayed to users searching Y keyword" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago Google was at the beginning of the market to sell the data, it didn't exist before. Obviously they didn't try to scrape every ounce of it before they made (not them specifically, but they played a big role in it) a market to sell it on. The second it became profitable, they started doing it. You can theoretically be for-profit and don't do anti-human shit, but that will be going directly against the only reason for-profit companies exist: maximising shareholder value. So those companies either don't survive or change for the worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago Google was at the beginning of the market to sell the data, it didn't exist before. Obviously they didn't try to scrape every ounce of it before they made (not them specifically, but they played a big role in it) a market to sell it on. The second it became profitable, they started doing it. You can theoretically be for-profit and don't do anti-human shit, but that will be going directly against the only reason for-profit companies exist: maximising shareholder value. So those companies either don't survive or change for the worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 child) I have bad news for you, non-profits need money too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) If you can't understand what the difference between the for-profit organization, and a non-profit with operational cost, you need to go way back to the basics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago Um... I do understand but I am not sure you do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) If you can't understand what the difference between the for-profit organization, and a non-profit with operational cost, you need to go way back to the basics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago Um... I do understand but I am not sure you do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 0 points 6 days ago Um... I do understand but I am not sure you do. permalink fedilink source parent
