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Pluralism go brrr (media.piefed.zip)
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[–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

no it wasn't, at least according to marx, who they claimed to follow
the stage BEFORE communism was the dictatorship of the proletariat, which they decided was extended, and they were representing the will of the people
so it actually never got to communism

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago*

    But it did... and that's the joke.

    There is no "end stage" communism or capitalism that fits their own purity tests; they are both ideals that we haven't managed to accomplish as a society, ever.

    So, as far as humanity is concerned, what results in the attempt to reach that ideal is communism/capitalism as we know it (not as we imagine it will be at some point in future).

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  • [+] -9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    All forms of larger scale attempts at communism ends with dictatorship. There is no other practical way to enforce the "correct way" of existing within the human species. Correct according to who? Religion is pretty similar to communism in that way. There is either a God/king that expresses what you are allowed to do, or a written text that is followed at the moral guideline.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Aside from the deliberate efforts by the west to destabilize any socialist or communist movements, staged coups to overthrow democratically elected leaders, and rampant pro capitalist/anti communist propaganda, a much better large scale similarity would be to the wildly successful open source movement where the product/service is free to use (moneyless), contribute to (classless), and owned in commons (by and for the proletariat).

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