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The Antinatalism subreddit basically promoting eugenics against autistic people (lemmy.world)
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[–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

How is that an idea of what the cause of suicide is? Where is the explanation of cause there? Because I gave an explanation of the cause. So far, all you've done is play coy.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    you didnt give an explanation of the cause, you seemingly pulled something out your ass and didnt like when i didnt immediately accept it as fact

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You think the widespread mistreatment of autistic people is something I invented? Really?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    im going to assume the complete misinterpretation is genuine and not just strawmanning

    no, i think that the high suicide rates being exclusively due to mistreatment is something you pulled out your ass, especially since the response to 'do you have proof' was not 'yes, here you go'

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I never said anything about it being exclusively due to mistreatment. That is something you made up.

    And I admitted I didn't have evidence, so I have no idea why you're complaining about me not having evidence.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Yes, but that’s not due to autism, that’s due to the way society treats autistic people

    must be me, but i read that as pretty explicit and unambiguously exclusive language

    And I admitted I didn’t have evidence, so I have no idea why you’re complaining about me not having evidence.

    because i think going 'well thats wrong, heres whats actually happening' with 0 evidence is actually a pretty weird thing to do, as is maintaining that it just has to be true when challenged

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes, it must be you. If I had meant it to be exclusive, I would have said "that is not solely due to autism, that is solely due to the way society treats autistic people"

    But please, continue to berate me for not having the evidence I admit I don't have. I'm sure that will lead to productive discussion.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    i doubt there was any chance of a productive discussion past ‘well thats wrong, heres whats actually happening’ with 0 evidence and maintaining that it just has to be true when challenged

    im doing this so folks reading this thread at least get the added context of the above being a complete unsourced guess

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yep, there it is.

    "I have no evidence."

    "You idiot! You have no evidence!"

    "I know. I said I have no evidence."

    "What kind of fool says that sort of thing without evidence?"

    "Me, I guess."

    "Ha! I knew you had no evidence!"

    Is this going to continue ad nauseam or do you have a point besides the fact that I said something I don't have evidence for? Because I think the folks reading this thread might have glommed on to the fact that I have no evidence at this point.

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