▲ 106 ▼ Hamas supporter fucked hard publicly [18+] (i.postimg.cc) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by nuke@yah.lol to c/noncredibledefense@sh.itjust.works NSFW 68 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 50 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's spectacularly tone deaf to say anything positive about Hamas after they slaughtered civilians in cold blood. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (5 children) So then we shouldn't say anything nice about Israel? They've killed Palestinians at a rate of something like 7 to 1. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Seriously. Why can't people wrap their heads around the idea that both of these fundamentalist religious groups suck and should be kept from power. I swear people think super villains are cartoonishly evil people. No. They're just supremely self-righteous people. And theres no quicker road to being a self righteous cunt than to believe you are gods chosen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anomalous_Llama@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago This is how I explained it to my parents when they asked me what was going on Two groups of assholes murdering a bunch of Innocents while arguing over which sucks more permalink fedilink source parent [–] roboticide@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, why would we? It's possible to think both the Israeli government and Hamas are trash. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Madison420@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago As long as you're consistent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, truly no good guys in this fight, just dead civilians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] avater@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I think it's a big difference if civilians die as part of collateral damage or if they are actively targeted and kidnapped in terrorist attacks, like the Hamas does it. Also don't forget that the Hamas is happily accepting civilians casualties as part of their strategy, because it's gets radicalized people into their ranks and also paints a much more sinister image of Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) If an IDF soldier fucks up and commits a horrible act are they held accountable? Having an official policy means nothing if it isn't enforced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well soldiers and armies are supposed to follow the rules set forth by the Geneva Conventions or they could be held liable under international court. And by definition both sides are responsible for war crimes, but you are right no one's going to hold them responsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I honestly don't know if there's internal enforcement or not. permalink fedilink source parent [+] avater@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I hope it. If a war crime hase been committed, it should be punished. But I highly doubt that the army of Israel is full of war criminals... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How long have you been playing attention? That's a pretty common position that reasonable people start with but if you watch Israel and the idf long enough the picture changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Long enough to see that there are no saints in this conflict, neither Israel nor Palestine and no one is much better or worse than the other. But what I know is that groups like Hamas are the real evil in this conflict, they are plain terrorists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you only started paying attention recently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago They said they because Israel never is punished. They bomb infrastructure basically weekly and you aught to look into that time they took like 15 minutes to run over an American citizen with a bulldozer inch by inch as a crowd screams and begs for them to stop. Oh or that time they bombed a us ship. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bouh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Someone here doesn't understand what a war crime is apparently... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent [–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) criticizing current israeli govt is pretty common and level headed take: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/4544312 7:1 ratio whose numbers are you using, there could be some sketchy methodology involved permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago According to the United Nations, roughly 6,400 Palestinians and 300 Israelis had been killed in the ongoing conflict since 2008, not counting the recent fatalities. 6400/300 in 200 You right, it's 21 to 1. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MoonshineBrew@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Honestly, yeah. At least about the Israeli government. Unless you are a damn hypocrite, you shouldn't accept anyone committing war crimes, killing civilians and so on. Obviously supporting a terror organization is also horrible. permalink fedilink source parent [+] robo@feddit.uk -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago You really think you said something clever there, don't you? Of course I'm not saying anything positive about Israel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (5 children) So then we shouldn't say anything nice about Israel? They've killed Palestinians at a rate of something like 7 to 1. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Seriously. Why can't people wrap their heads around the idea that both of these fundamentalist religious groups suck and should be kept from power. I swear people think super villains are cartoonishly evil people. No. They're just supremely self-righteous people. And theres no quicker road to being a self righteous cunt than to believe you are gods chosen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anomalous_Llama@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago This is how I explained it to my parents when they asked me what was going on Two groups of assholes murdering a bunch of Innocents while arguing over which sucks more permalink fedilink source parent [–] roboticide@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, why would we? It's possible to think both the Israeli government and Hamas are trash. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Madison420@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago As long as you're consistent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, truly no good guys in this fight, just dead civilians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] avater@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I think it's a big difference if civilians die as part of collateral damage or if they are actively targeted and kidnapped in terrorist attacks, like the Hamas does it. Also don't forget that the Hamas is happily accepting civilians casualties as part of their strategy, because it's gets radicalized people into their ranks and also paints a much more sinister image of Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) If an IDF soldier fucks up and commits a horrible act are they held accountable? Having an official policy means nothing if it isn't enforced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well soldiers and armies are supposed to follow the rules set forth by the Geneva Conventions or they could be held liable under international court. And by definition both sides are responsible for war crimes, but you are right no one's going to hold them responsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I honestly don't know if there's internal enforcement or not. permalink fedilink source parent [+] avater@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I hope it. If a war crime hase been committed, it should be punished. But I highly doubt that the army of Israel is full of war criminals... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How long have you been playing attention? That's a pretty common position that reasonable people start with but if you watch Israel and the idf long enough the picture changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Long enough to see that there are no saints in this conflict, neither Israel nor Palestine and no one is much better or worse than the other. But what I know is that groups like Hamas are the real evil in this conflict, they are plain terrorists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you only started paying attention recently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago They said they because Israel never is punished. They bomb infrastructure basically weekly and you aught to look into that time they took like 15 minutes to run over an American citizen with a bulldozer inch by inch as a crowd screams and begs for them to stop. Oh or that time they bombed a us ship. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bouh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Someone here doesn't understand what a war crime is apparently... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent [–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) criticizing current israeli govt is pretty common and level headed take: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/4544312 7:1 ratio whose numbers are you using, there could be some sketchy methodology involved permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago According to the United Nations, roughly 6,400 Palestinians and 300 Israelis had been killed in the ongoing conflict since 2008, not counting the recent fatalities. 6400/300 in 200 You right, it's 21 to 1. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MoonshineBrew@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Honestly, yeah. At least about the Israeli government. Unless you are a damn hypocrite, you shouldn't accept anyone committing war crimes, killing civilians and so on. Obviously supporting a terror organization is also horrible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Seriously. Why can't people wrap their heads around the idea that both of these fundamentalist religious groups suck and should be kept from power. I swear people think super villains are cartoonishly evil people. No. They're just supremely self-righteous people. And theres no quicker road to being a self righteous cunt than to believe you are gods chosen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anomalous_Llama@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago This is how I explained it to my parents when they asked me what was going on Two groups of assholes murdering a bunch of Innocents while arguing over which sucks more permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anomalous_Llama@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago This is how I explained it to my parents when they asked me what was going on Two groups of assholes murdering a bunch of Innocents while arguing over which sucks more permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anomalous_Llama@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago This is how I explained it to my parents when they asked me what was going on Two groups of assholes murdering a bunch of Innocents while arguing over which sucks more permalink fedilink source parent
[–] roboticide@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, why would we? It's possible to think both the Israeli government and Hamas are trash. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Madison420@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago As long as you're consistent. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Madison420@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago As long as you're consistent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, truly no good guys in this fight, just dead civilians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] avater@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I think it's a big difference if civilians die as part of collateral damage or if they are actively targeted and kidnapped in terrorist attacks, like the Hamas does it. Also don't forget that the Hamas is happily accepting civilians casualties as part of their strategy, because it's gets radicalized people into their ranks and also paints a much more sinister image of Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) If an IDF soldier fucks up and commits a horrible act are they held accountable? Having an official policy means nothing if it isn't enforced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well soldiers and armies are supposed to follow the rules set forth by the Geneva Conventions or they could be held liable under international court. And by definition both sides are responsible for war crimes, but you are right no one's going to hold them responsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I honestly don't know if there's internal enforcement or not. permalink fedilink source parent [+] avater@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I hope it. If a war crime hase been committed, it should be punished. But I highly doubt that the army of Israel is full of war criminals... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How long have you been playing attention? That's a pretty common position that reasonable people start with but if you watch Israel and the idf long enough the picture changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Long enough to see that there are no saints in this conflict, neither Israel nor Palestine and no one is much better or worse than the other. But what I know is that groups like Hamas are the real evil in this conflict, they are plain terrorists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you only started paying attention recently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago They said they because Israel never is punished. They bomb infrastructure basically weekly and you aught to look into that time they took like 15 minutes to run over an American citizen with a bulldozer inch by inch as a crowd screams and begs for them to stop. Oh or that time they bombed a us ship. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bouh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Someone here doesn't understand what a war crime is apparently... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] avater@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I think it's a big difference if civilians die as part of collateral damage or if they are actively targeted and kidnapped in terrorist attacks, like the Hamas does it. Also don't forget that the Hamas is happily accepting civilians casualties as part of their strategy, because it's gets radicalized people into their ranks and also paints a much more sinister image of Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) If an IDF soldier fucks up and commits a horrible act are they held accountable? Having an official policy means nothing if it isn't enforced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well soldiers and armies are supposed to follow the rules set forth by the Geneva Conventions or they could be held liable under international court. And by definition both sides are responsible for war crimes, but you are right no one's going to hold them responsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I honestly don't know if there's internal enforcement or not. permalink fedilink source parent [+] avater@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I hope it. If a war crime hase been committed, it should be punished. But I highly doubt that the army of Israel is full of war criminals... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How long have you been playing attention? That's a pretty common position that reasonable people start with but if you watch Israel and the idf long enough the picture changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Long enough to see that there are no saints in this conflict, neither Israel nor Palestine and no one is much better or worse than the other. But what I know is that groups like Hamas are the real evil in this conflict, they are plain terrorists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you only started paying attention recently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago They said they because Israel never is punished. They bomb infrastructure basically weekly and you aught to look into that time they took like 15 minutes to run over an American citizen with a bulldozer inch by inch as a crowd screams and begs for them to stop. Oh or that time they bombed a us ship. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bouh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Someone here doesn't understand what a war crime is apparently... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) If an IDF soldier fucks up and commits a horrible act are they held accountable? Having an official policy means nothing if it isn't enforced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well soldiers and armies are supposed to follow the rules set forth by the Geneva Conventions or they could be held liable under international court. And by definition both sides are responsible for war crimes, but you are right no one's going to hold them responsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I honestly don't know if there's internal enforcement or not. permalink fedilink source parent [+] avater@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I hope it. If a war crime hase been committed, it should be punished. But I highly doubt that the army of Israel is full of war criminals... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How long have you been playing attention? That's a pretty common position that reasonable people start with but if you watch Israel and the idf long enough the picture changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Long enough to see that there are no saints in this conflict, neither Israel nor Palestine and no one is much better or worse than the other. But what I know is that groups like Hamas are the real evil in this conflict, they are plain terrorists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you only started paying attention recently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago They said they because Israel never is punished. They bomb infrastructure basically weekly and you aught to look into that time they took like 15 minutes to run over an American citizen with a bulldozer inch by inch as a crowd screams and begs for them to stop. Oh or that time they bombed a us ship. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well soldiers and armies are supposed to follow the rules set forth by the Geneva Conventions or they could be held liable under international court. And by definition both sides are responsible for war crimes, but you are right no one's going to hold them responsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I honestly don't know if there's internal enforcement or not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I honestly don't know if there's internal enforcement or not. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] avater@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) I hope it. If a war crime hase been committed, it should be punished. But I highly doubt that the army of Israel is full of war criminals... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How long have you been playing attention? That's a pretty common position that reasonable people start with but if you watch Israel and the idf long enough the picture changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Long enough to see that there are no saints in this conflict, neither Israel nor Palestine and no one is much better or worse than the other. But what I know is that groups like Hamas are the real evil in this conflict, they are plain terrorists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you only started paying attention recently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago They said they because Israel never is punished. They bomb infrastructure basically weekly and you aught to look into that time they took like 15 minutes to run over an American citizen with a bulldozer inch by inch as a crowd screams and begs for them to stop. Oh or that time they bombed a us ship. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How long have you been playing attention? That's a pretty common position that reasonable people start with but if you watch Israel and the idf long enough the picture changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Long enough to see that there are no saints in this conflict, neither Israel nor Palestine and no one is much better or worse than the other. But what I know is that groups like Hamas are the real evil in this conflict, they are plain terrorists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you only started paying attention recently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Long enough to see that there are no saints in this conflict, neither Israel nor Palestine and no one is much better or worse than the other. But what I know is that groups like Hamas are the real evil in this conflict, they are plain terrorists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you only started paying attention recently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you only started paying attention recently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That you don't give any real responses makes it clear I guessed correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] avater@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) sure you figured it all out buddy. Israel bad, Palestine good, I think I got the lemmy meta now. You can now fuck off and give yourself a victory wank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Strawmanning me and still the non-answer is consistent with my guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago They said they because Israel never is punished. They bomb infrastructure basically weekly and you aught to look into that time they took like 15 minutes to run over an American citizen with a bulldozer inch by inch as a crowd screams and begs for them to stop. Oh or that time they bombed a us ship. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bouh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Someone here doesn't understand what a war crime is apparently... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] avater@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) criticizing current israeli govt is pretty common and level headed take: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/4544312 7:1 ratio whose numbers are you using, there could be some sketchy methodology involved permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago According to the United Nations, roughly 6,400 Palestinians and 300 Israelis had been killed in the ongoing conflict since 2008, not counting the recent fatalities. 6400/300 in 200 You right, it's 21 to 1. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago According to the United Nations, roughly 6,400 Palestinians and 300 Israelis had been killed in the ongoing conflict since 2008, not counting the recent fatalities. 6400/300 in 200 You right, it's 21 to 1. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MoonshineBrew@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Honestly, yeah. At least about the Israeli government. Unless you are a damn hypocrite, you shouldn't accept anyone committing war crimes, killing civilians and so on. Obviously supporting a terror organization is also horrible. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] robo@feddit.uk -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago You really think you said something clever there, don't you? Of course I'm not saying anything positive about Israel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago You really think you said something clever there, don't you? Of course I'm not saying anything positive about Israel. permalink fedilink source parent