▲ 1086 ▼ Anybody Who Thinks Orbital Data Centers are a Good Idea Is Suffering from AI Psychosis, Experts Argue (tech.yahoo.com) submitted 1 month ago by Some_Emo_Chick@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 403 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Giloron@programming.dev -24 points 1 month ago (3 children) That's what the lasers are for. It's a solved problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago Not really, because it can't be solved, just worked around. Lasers are still subject to the inverse square law, but with a slightly different multiplier. Also, lasers still have the bandwidth issue of not being able to double up the communication lines due to cross talk and other fun physics issues. There's a reason why fiber will never go out of style. permalink fedilink source parent [–] M137@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) If it was a solved problem it would be widely used, but it isn't. Ever looked at the reports of starlink speeds? It's not reliable at all, everything other than a fully clear sky with cold weather (meaning less moisture and particles in the air) affects the communication. It physically can't be a good or better alternative to fiber (or anything else that isn't wireless). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago Yeah... Terrestrial 5G towers with a fiber backbone for some proportion of them... are... stupendously more cost effective at getting a decent level of internet to a lot of people. Also doesn't cause Kessler Syndrome, which is, you know, good. Now, such a system will still suffer in more abberant atmospheric conditons, but to a far lesser extent. Literally the only actual 'use case' I can think of where StarLink 'makes sense' as a better solution is ... you are a boat that is actually moving most of the time. If you're a house boat... terrestrial 5G probably exists near your mooring. Either that or you truly, truly live far away from civilization. ... but we already had satellite internet that did those things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Giloron@programming.dev -1 points 1 month ago Agreed on the downlink. I thought this was about the node to node communications. Blue origin and probably others are also using it for in orbit communication. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Other than the fact that the speed of light is a non negotiable constant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago Not really, because it can't be solved, just worked around. Lasers are still subject to the inverse square law, but with a slightly different multiplier. Also, lasers still have the bandwidth issue of not being able to double up the communication lines due to cross talk and other fun physics issues. There's a reason why fiber will never go out of style. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M137@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) If it was a solved problem it would be widely used, but it isn't. Ever looked at the reports of starlink speeds? It's not reliable at all, everything other than a fully clear sky with cold weather (meaning less moisture and particles in the air) affects the communication. It physically can't be a good or better alternative to fiber (or anything else that isn't wireless). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago Yeah... Terrestrial 5G towers with a fiber backbone for some proportion of them... are... stupendously more cost effective at getting a decent level of internet to a lot of people. Also doesn't cause Kessler Syndrome, which is, you know, good. Now, such a system will still suffer in more abberant atmospheric conditons, but to a far lesser extent. Literally the only actual 'use case' I can think of where StarLink 'makes sense' as a better solution is ... you are a boat that is actually moving most of the time. If you're a house boat... terrestrial 5G probably exists near your mooring. Either that or you truly, truly live far away from civilization. ... but we already had satellite internet that did those things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Giloron@programming.dev -1 points 1 month ago Agreed on the downlink. I thought this was about the node to node communications. Blue origin and probably others are also using it for in orbit communication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago Yeah... Terrestrial 5G towers with a fiber backbone for some proportion of them... are... stupendously more cost effective at getting a decent level of internet to a lot of people. Also doesn't cause Kessler Syndrome, which is, you know, good. Now, such a system will still suffer in more abberant atmospheric conditons, but to a far lesser extent. Literally the only actual 'use case' I can think of where StarLink 'makes sense' as a better solution is ... you are a boat that is actually moving most of the time. If you're a house boat... terrestrial 5G probably exists near your mooring. Either that or you truly, truly live far away from civilization. ... but we already had satellite internet that did those things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Giloron@programming.dev -1 points 1 month ago Agreed on the downlink. I thought this was about the node to node communications. Blue origin and probably others are also using it for in orbit communication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Other than the fact that the speed of light is a non negotiable constant. permalink fedilink source parent