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[–] Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 177 points 1 month ago (6 children) In the defense of the North Korea outrage, they lobotomised the kid and sent the dying body back to US. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 84 points 1 month ago IIRC some experts said that most likely his state was causes by reaction to medicine or something. North Korea prefers to exchange American prisoners for something rather than simply kill them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 month ago Give the Americans some time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 child) only difference here is that the body will already be on us soil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -28 points 1 month ago (5 children) It's bizarre to see somebody believe that not only will a former Olympic athlete be sentenced for touching paint but to honestly believe he could be beaten into brain damage and die from it. Chances are the guy walks away scot free and then sues the US Government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 46 points 1 month ago* (1 child) More things that you wouldn't have thought possible in polite society have been happening in recent years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Maeve@kbin.earth -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Since US was a colony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) No no, see, these folks don't count the genocide of millions and the people who suffered under street executions, illegal detention, and the destruction of families, for centuries because those people deserved it for being born wrong. Now it's happening to white people! Can you believe that? My stars! Never before! Unprecedented! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I bow to the lotus feet of the guru. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) 😂😭🫂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago 😉🫂❤️ When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Wait until you find out what the current regime and its supporters thinks about being able to sue for violating the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Frankly, I don't care what the buffoon thinks. We took his name off the Kennedy building, we're suing comanies for AI racial bias, we blocked his DOJ from collecting trans medical records, and we just told his ICE to fuck off from immigration hearing locations. The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. You sure about that? I'd lto have faith in the rule of law, but the trump admin is increasingly ignoring court orders, despite the public wins you mentioned. I really feel like we're going to see the admin trot out the apocryphal Andrew jackson quote of 'the courts have made their decision, let them enforce it' in the next year or so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet his name is off the Kennedy building and his ballroom is not open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet US citizens are still being abducted, killed, disappeared, and sent off to random countries. But sure, let's all cheer about them removing his name from the Kennedy building lmao. What a joke. (All in the name of immigration control! If only those us citizens had just sued the government I'm sure they'd still be alive!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here. Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 month ago Yeah because he's white. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure it's bizarre to see somebody believe that, but it's because it is so easy to believe with all the shit going on, not because it's something difficult to believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago Given the post, these comments, and that comment score I think it isn't unrealistic to believe it's just a bunch of fucking Tankies trying to normalize North Korea. Like yeah, the Trump admin is shit, and would have spiraled out of control if there were no resistance, but it ain't fuckin North Korea. It isn't even as bad as China. permalink fedilink source parent [–] forgetfulmeat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) We're saying we are seeing the end of that soon. We are being more oppressed over time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 month ago I think he has a lot less support and authority now than at the start of his term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Pretty sure there were missing teeth. Edit: not Otto. Might have been another prisoner. Or I'm confusing it with World War Z and how North Korea solved the zombie crisis by pulling everyone's teeth. Edit edit: ok, he's the one I read about but these details aren't in wikipedia and may be suspect. They said Otto was deaf, blind, jerking uncontrollably and making "inhuman" sounds when they met him on a plane. His teeth also looked like they had been rearranged with pliers, his father said. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/he-totally-deformed-otto-warmbiers-11242029 permalink fedilink source parent [+] Maeve@kbin.earth -15 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's demonstrably false. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Which part? Edit: apparently the lobotomized part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] butwhyishischinabook@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 month ago Getting hit with the biggest "um, actually" energy from the tankie battalion 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent [+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) How is this fake news getting such high upvote ratio permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 81 points 1 month ago* (1 child) He wasn't literally surgically lobotomized no - but he did have extremely severe neurological damage from an unknown source which put him in a vegetative state that he never regained consciousness from. If it was done by DPRK intentionally or not isn't known, but he did suffer those injuries during his time imprisoned under their supervision, and generally it's held that harm to a prisoner is the fault of the captor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -33 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, that's not "North Korea lobotomising him". Hence fake news. A lobotomy cuts off the front of the brain It would be the first time North Korea has harmed an American in this context and it's pretty likely to be unintentional if they wanted to trade prisoners permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago* (1 child) What a tedious semantic argument. An inaccurate use of a term in an informal setting that nonetheless quite accurately describes the symptoms he experienced, is not fake news - it's not even news, it's an internet comment. It's been corrected now. it’s pretty likely to be unintentional It's generally unintentional to beat someone and have them wind up in a vegetative state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -14 points 1 month ago (2 children) See the other comment from someone else, they were not beaten at all and the one anonymous report that he was appears to be fabricated permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Not what the other comment says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) "Didn't they beat the guy so badly he had brain damage and died?" Is that not what this person is saying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago The beating the previous comment or is referring to isn't a real beating, it's figurative to make a point. Intentional or not, it happened and NK is responsible for the outcome. Just like the US is responsible for what happens to the foreign nationals we imprisoned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 18 points 1 month ago Actually shut the fuck up. Please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) You seem to have experience with lobotomy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 1 month ago Appreciate your kind words permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 84 points 1 month ago IIRC some experts said that most likely his state was causes by reaction to medicine or something. North Korea prefers to exchange American prisoners for something rather than simply kill them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 month ago Give the Americans some time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 child) only difference here is that the body will already be on us soil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -28 points 1 month ago (5 children) It's bizarre to see somebody believe that not only will a former Olympic athlete be sentenced for touching paint but to honestly believe he could be beaten into brain damage and die from it. Chances are the guy walks away scot free and then sues the US Government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 46 points 1 month ago* (1 child) More things that you wouldn't have thought possible in polite society have been happening in recent years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Maeve@kbin.earth -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Since US was a colony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) No no, see, these folks don't count the genocide of millions and the people who suffered under street executions, illegal detention, and the destruction of families, for centuries because those people deserved it for being born wrong. Now it's happening to white people! Can you believe that? My stars! Never before! Unprecedented! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I bow to the lotus feet of the guru. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) 😂😭🫂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago 😉🫂❤️ When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Wait until you find out what the current regime and its supporters thinks about being able to sue for violating the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Frankly, I don't care what the buffoon thinks. We took his name off the Kennedy building, we're suing comanies for AI racial bias, we blocked his DOJ from collecting trans medical records, and we just told his ICE to fuck off from immigration hearing locations. The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. You sure about that? I'd lto have faith in the rule of law, but the trump admin is increasingly ignoring court orders, despite the public wins you mentioned. I really feel like we're going to see the admin trot out the apocryphal Andrew jackson quote of 'the courts have made their decision, let them enforce it' in the next year or so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet his name is off the Kennedy building and his ballroom is not open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet US citizens are still being abducted, killed, disappeared, and sent off to random countries. But sure, let's all cheer about them removing his name from the Kennedy building lmao. What a joke. (All in the name of immigration control! If only those us citizens had just sued the government I'm sure they'd still be alive!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here. Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 month ago Yeah because he's white. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure it's bizarre to see somebody believe that, but it's because it is so easy to believe with all the shit going on, not because it's something difficult to believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago Given the post, these comments, and that comment score I think it isn't unrealistic to believe it's just a bunch of fucking Tankies trying to normalize North Korea. Like yeah, the Trump admin is shit, and would have spiraled out of control if there were no resistance, but it ain't fuckin North Korea. It isn't even as bad as China. permalink fedilink source parent [–] forgetfulmeat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) We're saying we are seeing the end of that soon. We are being more oppressed over time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 month ago I think he has a lot less support and authority now than at the start of his term. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -28 points 1 month ago (5 children) It's bizarre to see somebody believe that not only will a former Olympic athlete be sentenced for touching paint but to honestly believe he could be beaten into brain damage and die from it. Chances are the guy walks away scot free and then sues the US Government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 46 points 1 month ago* (1 child) More things that you wouldn't have thought possible in polite society have been happening in recent years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Maeve@kbin.earth -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Since US was a colony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) No no, see, these folks don't count the genocide of millions and the people who suffered under street executions, illegal detention, and the destruction of families, for centuries because those people deserved it for being born wrong. Now it's happening to white people! Can you believe that? My stars! Never before! Unprecedented! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I bow to the lotus feet of the guru. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) 😂😭🫂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago 😉🫂❤️ When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Wait until you find out what the current regime and its supporters thinks about being able to sue for violating the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Frankly, I don't care what the buffoon thinks. We took his name off the Kennedy building, we're suing comanies for AI racial bias, we blocked his DOJ from collecting trans medical records, and we just told his ICE to fuck off from immigration hearing locations. The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. You sure about that? I'd lto have faith in the rule of law, but the trump admin is increasingly ignoring court orders, despite the public wins you mentioned. I really feel like we're going to see the admin trot out the apocryphal Andrew jackson quote of 'the courts have made their decision, let them enforce it' in the next year or so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet his name is off the Kennedy building and his ballroom is not open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet US citizens are still being abducted, killed, disappeared, and sent off to random countries. But sure, let's all cheer about them removing his name from the Kennedy building lmao. What a joke. (All in the name of immigration control! If only those us citizens had just sued the government I'm sure they'd still be alive!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here. Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 month ago Yeah because he's white. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure it's bizarre to see somebody believe that, but it's because it is so easy to believe with all the shit going on, not because it's something difficult to believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago Given the post, these comments, and that comment score I think it isn't unrealistic to believe it's just a bunch of fucking Tankies trying to normalize North Korea. Like yeah, the Trump admin is shit, and would have spiraled out of control if there were no resistance, but it ain't fuckin North Korea. It isn't even as bad as China. permalink fedilink source parent [–] forgetfulmeat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) We're saying we are seeing the end of that soon. We are being more oppressed over time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 month ago I think he has a lot less support and authority now than at the start of his term. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 46 points 1 month ago* (1 child) More things that you wouldn't have thought possible in polite society have been happening in recent years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Maeve@kbin.earth -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Since US was a colony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) No no, see, these folks don't count the genocide of millions and the people who suffered under street executions, illegal detention, and the destruction of families, for centuries because those people deserved it for being born wrong. Now it's happening to white people! Can you believe that? My stars! Never before! Unprecedented! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I bow to the lotus feet of the guru. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) 😂😭🫂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago 😉🫂❤️ When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Maeve@kbin.earth -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Since US was a colony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) No no, see, these folks don't count the genocide of millions and the people who suffered under street executions, illegal detention, and the destruction of families, for centuries because those people deserved it for being born wrong. Now it's happening to white people! Can you believe that? My stars! Never before! Unprecedented! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I bow to the lotus feet of the guru. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) 😂😭🫂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago 😉🫂❤️ When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) No no, see, these folks don't count the genocide of millions and the people who suffered under street executions, illegal detention, and the destruction of families, for centuries because those people deserved it for being born wrong. Now it's happening to white people! Can you believe that? My stars! Never before! Unprecedented! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I bow to the lotus feet of the guru. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) 😂😭🫂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago 😉🫂❤️ When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I bow to the lotus feet of the guru. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) 😂😭🫂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago 😉🫂❤️ When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) 😂😭🫂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago 😉🫂❤️ When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago 😉🫂❤️ When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Wait until you find out what the current regime and its supporters thinks about being able to sue for violating the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Frankly, I don't care what the buffoon thinks. We took his name off the Kennedy building, we're suing comanies for AI racial bias, we blocked his DOJ from collecting trans medical records, and we just told his ICE to fuck off from immigration hearing locations. The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. You sure about that? I'd lto have faith in the rule of law, but the trump admin is increasingly ignoring court orders, despite the public wins you mentioned. I really feel like we're going to see the admin trot out the apocryphal Andrew jackson quote of 'the courts have made their decision, let them enforce it' in the next year or so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet his name is off the Kennedy building and his ballroom is not open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet US citizens are still being abducted, killed, disappeared, and sent off to random countries. But sure, let's all cheer about them removing his name from the Kennedy building lmao. What a joke. (All in the name of immigration control! If only those us citizens had just sued the government I'm sure they'd still be alive!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here. Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Frankly, I don't care what the buffoon thinks. We took his name off the Kennedy building, we're suing comanies for AI racial bias, we blocked his DOJ from collecting trans medical records, and we just told his ICE to fuck off from immigration hearing locations. The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. You sure about that? I'd lto have faith in the rule of law, but the trump admin is increasingly ignoring court orders, despite the public wins you mentioned. I really feel like we're going to see the admin trot out the apocryphal Andrew jackson quote of 'the courts have made their decision, let them enforce it' in the next year or so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet his name is off the Kennedy building and his ballroom is not open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet US citizens are still being abducted, killed, disappeared, and sent off to random countries. But sure, let's all cheer about them removing his name from the Kennedy building lmao. What a joke. (All in the name of immigration control! If only those us citizens had just sued the government I'm sure they'd still be alive!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here. Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge. You sure about that? I'd lto have faith in the rule of law, but the trump admin is increasingly ignoring court orders, despite the public wins you mentioned. I really feel like we're going to see the admin trot out the apocryphal Andrew jackson quote of 'the courts have made their decision, let them enforce it' in the next year or so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet his name is off the Kennedy building and his ballroom is not open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet US citizens are still being abducted, killed, disappeared, and sent off to random countries. But sure, let's all cheer about them removing his name from the Kennedy building lmao. What a joke. (All in the name of immigration control! If only those us citizens had just sued the government I'm sure they'd still be alive!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here. Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet his name is off the Kennedy building and his ballroom is not open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet US citizens are still being abducted, killed, disappeared, and sent off to random countries. But sure, let's all cheer about them removing his name from the Kennedy building lmao. What a joke. (All in the name of immigration control! If only those us citizens had just sued the government I'm sure they'd still be alive!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here. Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) And yet US citizens are still being abducted, killed, disappeared, and sent off to random countries. But sure, let's all cheer about them removing his name from the Kennedy building lmao. What a joke. (All in the name of immigration control! If only those us citizens had just sued the government I'm sure they'd still be alive!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here. Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here. Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts" I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE. The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles. The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now). None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 month ago Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 month ago Yeah because he's white. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure it's bizarre to see somebody believe that, but it's because it is so easy to believe with all the shit going on, not because it's something difficult to believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago Given the post, these comments, and that comment score I think it isn't unrealistic to believe it's just a bunch of fucking Tankies trying to normalize North Korea. Like yeah, the Trump admin is shit, and would have spiraled out of control if there were no resistance, but it ain't fuckin North Korea. It isn't even as bad as China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 month ago Given the post, these comments, and that comment score I think it isn't unrealistic to believe it's just a bunch of fucking Tankies trying to normalize North Korea. Like yeah, the Trump admin is shit, and would have spiraled out of control if there were no resistance, but it ain't fuckin North Korea. It isn't even as bad as China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] forgetfulmeat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) We're saying we are seeing the end of that soon. We are being more oppressed over time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 month ago I think he has a lot less support and authority now than at the start of his term. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 month ago I think he has a lot less support and authority now than at the start of his term. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Pretty sure there were missing teeth. Edit: not Otto. Might have been another prisoner. Or I'm confusing it with World War Z and how North Korea solved the zombie crisis by pulling everyone's teeth. Edit edit: ok, he's the one I read about but these details aren't in wikipedia and may be suspect. They said Otto was deaf, blind, jerking uncontrollably and making "inhuman" sounds when they met him on a plane. His teeth also looked like they had been rearranged with pliers, his father said. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/he-totally-deformed-otto-warmbiers-11242029 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Maeve@kbin.earth -15 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's demonstrably false. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Which part? Edit: apparently the lobotomized part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] butwhyishischinabook@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 month ago Getting hit with the biggest "um, actually" energy from the tankie battalion 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Which part? Edit: apparently the lobotomized part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] butwhyishischinabook@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 month ago Getting hit with the biggest "um, actually" energy from the tankie battalion 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] butwhyishischinabook@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 month ago Getting hit with the biggest "um, actually" energy from the tankie battalion 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) How is this fake news getting such high upvote ratio permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 81 points 1 month ago* (1 child) He wasn't literally surgically lobotomized no - but he did have extremely severe neurological damage from an unknown source which put him in a vegetative state that he never regained consciousness from. If it was done by DPRK intentionally or not isn't known, but he did suffer those injuries during his time imprisoned under their supervision, and generally it's held that harm to a prisoner is the fault of the captor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -33 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, that's not "North Korea lobotomising him". Hence fake news. A lobotomy cuts off the front of the brain It would be the first time North Korea has harmed an American in this context and it's pretty likely to be unintentional if they wanted to trade prisoners permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago* (1 child) What a tedious semantic argument. An inaccurate use of a term in an informal setting that nonetheless quite accurately describes the symptoms he experienced, is not fake news - it's not even news, it's an internet comment. It's been corrected now. it’s pretty likely to be unintentional It's generally unintentional to beat someone and have them wind up in a vegetative state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -14 points 1 month ago (2 children) See the other comment from someone else, they were not beaten at all and the one anonymous report that he was appears to be fabricated permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Not what the other comment says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) "Didn't they beat the guy so badly he had brain damage and died?" Is that not what this person is saying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago The beating the previous comment or is referring to isn't a real beating, it's figurative to make a point. Intentional or not, it happened and NK is responsible for the outcome. Just like the US is responsible for what happens to the foreign nationals we imprisoned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 18 points 1 month ago Actually shut the fuck up. Please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) You seem to have experience with lobotomy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 1 month ago Appreciate your kind words permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 81 points 1 month ago* (1 child) He wasn't literally surgically lobotomized no - but he did have extremely severe neurological damage from an unknown source which put him in a vegetative state that he never regained consciousness from. If it was done by DPRK intentionally or not isn't known, but he did suffer those injuries during his time imprisoned under their supervision, and generally it's held that harm to a prisoner is the fault of the captor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -33 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, that's not "North Korea lobotomising him". Hence fake news. A lobotomy cuts off the front of the brain It would be the first time North Korea has harmed an American in this context and it's pretty likely to be unintentional if they wanted to trade prisoners permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago* (1 child) What a tedious semantic argument. An inaccurate use of a term in an informal setting that nonetheless quite accurately describes the symptoms he experienced, is not fake news - it's not even news, it's an internet comment. It's been corrected now. it’s pretty likely to be unintentional It's generally unintentional to beat someone and have them wind up in a vegetative state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -14 points 1 month ago (2 children) See the other comment from someone else, they were not beaten at all and the one anonymous report that he was appears to be fabricated permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Not what the other comment says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) "Didn't they beat the guy so badly he had brain damage and died?" Is that not what this person is saying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago The beating the previous comment or is referring to isn't a real beating, it's figurative to make a point. Intentional or not, it happened and NK is responsible for the outcome. Just like the US is responsible for what happens to the foreign nationals we imprisoned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 18 points 1 month ago Actually shut the fuck up. Please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) You seem to have experience with lobotomy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 1 month ago Appreciate your kind words permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -33 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, that's not "North Korea lobotomising him". Hence fake news. A lobotomy cuts off the front of the brain It would be the first time North Korea has harmed an American in this context and it's pretty likely to be unintentional if they wanted to trade prisoners permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago* (1 child) What a tedious semantic argument. An inaccurate use of a term in an informal setting that nonetheless quite accurately describes the symptoms he experienced, is not fake news - it's not even news, it's an internet comment. It's been corrected now. it’s pretty likely to be unintentional It's generally unintentional to beat someone and have them wind up in a vegetative state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -14 points 1 month ago (2 children) See the other comment from someone else, they were not beaten at all and the one anonymous report that he was appears to be fabricated permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Not what the other comment says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) "Didn't they beat the guy so badly he had brain damage and died?" Is that not what this person is saying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago The beating the previous comment or is referring to isn't a real beating, it's figurative to make a point. Intentional or not, it happened and NK is responsible for the outcome. Just like the US is responsible for what happens to the foreign nationals we imprisoned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 18 points 1 month ago Actually shut the fuck up. Please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) You seem to have experience with lobotomy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 1 month ago Appreciate your kind words permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago* (1 child) What a tedious semantic argument. An inaccurate use of a term in an informal setting that nonetheless quite accurately describes the symptoms he experienced, is not fake news - it's not even news, it's an internet comment. It's been corrected now. it’s pretty likely to be unintentional It's generally unintentional to beat someone and have them wind up in a vegetative state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -14 points 1 month ago (2 children) See the other comment from someone else, they were not beaten at all and the one anonymous report that he was appears to be fabricated permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Not what the other comment says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) "Didn't they beat the guy so badly he had brain damage and died?" Is that not what this person is saying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago The beating the previous comment or is referring to isn't a real beating, it's figurative to make a point. Intentional or not, it happened and NK is responsible for the outcome. Just like the US is responsible for what happens to the foreign nationals we imprisoned. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ryannathans@aussie.zone -14 points 1 month ago (2 children) See the other comment from someone else, they were not beaten at all and the one anonymous report that he was appears to be fabricated permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Not what the other comment says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) "Didn't they beat the guy so badly he had brain damage and died?" Is that not what this person is saying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago The beating the previous comment or is referring to isn't a real beating, it's figurative to make a point. Intentional or not, it happened and NK is responsible for the outcome. Just like the US is responsible for what happens to the foreign nationals we imprisoned. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Not what the other comment says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) "Didn't they beat the guy so badly he had brain damage and died?" Is that not what this person is saying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) "Didn't they beat the guy so badly he had brain damage and died?" Is that not what this person is saying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago The beating the previous comment or is referring to isn't a real beating, it's figurative to make a point. Intentional or not, it happened and NK is responsible for the outcome. Just like the US is responsible for what happens to the foreign nationals we imprisoned. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 18 points 1 month ago Actually shut the fuck up. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) You seem to have experience with lobotomy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 1 month ago Appreciate your kind words permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 1 month ago Appreciate your kind words permalink fedilink source parent