▲ 63 ▼ "It's too dangerous for us to speculate": Valve don't know if Steam Machine prices will drop in the future, after admitting that "some people are going to priced out" (www.rockpapershotgun.com) submitted 1 month ago by GamingBot@lemmy.zip [M, B] to c/gaming@lemmy.zip 14 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] jeeva@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Because console manufacturers can rely on their customers buying stuff at their store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) The game store that has so much of the PC market that people call it a monopoly can't? That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* If it's sold at a loss, then you would get companies buying them in the thousands and installing Windows for office use. Remember the old story with the US military using PS3s as a supercomputer because they were sold at a loss and so were the best value for getting lots of compute? That's what you get, except with the Steam Machine using it for something else is just straight up a supported use case. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jeeva@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I guess this explains it better than I could: https://lemmy.world/post/48534116 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah, I see your point. To paraphrase, it says that they have to make a profit and can't guarantee game sales from their own store to offset any potential subsidisation. My point is that Gaben/Valve have billions and don't need the profit from it. So what if some people use it to play games from other stores? They'll be in the minority for sure. I guess everyone is too capitalism-brained to see past the profit motive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jeeva@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* I'm not sure you do see my point. To be clear, nowhere in that article suggests that valve would be making a profit on the current price, or that they "have to make a profit" - just that they would not sell it under cost. I'm genuinely confused how that becomes "profit motive", or shows greed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) The game store that has so much of the PC market that people call it a monopoly can't? That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* If it's sold at a loss, then you would get companies buying them in the thousands and installing Windows for office use. Remember the old story with the US military using PS3s as a supercomputer because they were sold at a loss and so were the best value for getting lots of compute? That's what you get, except with the Steam Machine using it for something else is just straight up a supported use case. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jeeva@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I guess this explains it better than I could: https://lemmy.world/post/48534116 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah, I see your point. To paraphrase, it says that they have to make a profit and can't guarantee game sales from their own store to offset any potential subsidisation. My point is that Gaben/Valve have billions and don't need the profit from it. So what if some people use it to play games from other stores? They'll be in the minority for sure. I guess everyone is too capitalism-brained to see past the profit motive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jeeva@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* I'm not sure you do see my point. To be clear, nowhere in that article suggests that valve would be making a profit on the current price, or that they "have to make a profit" - just that they would not sell it under cost. I'm genuinely confused how that becomes "profit motive", or shows greed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* If it's sold at a loss, then you would get companies buying them in the thousands and installing Windows for office use. Remember the old story with the US military using PS3s as a supercomputer because they were sold at a loss and so were the best value for getting lots of compute? That's what you get, except with the Steam Machine using it for something else is just straight up a supported use case. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jeeva@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I guess this explains it better than I could: https://lemmy.world/post/48534116 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah, I see your point. To paraphrase, it says that they have to make a profit and can't guarantee game sales from their own store to offset any potential subsidisation. My point is that Gaben/Valve have billions and don't need the profit from it. So what if some people use it to play games from other stores? They'll be in the minority for sure. I guess everyone is too capitalism-brained to see past the profit motive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jeeva@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* I'm not sure you do see my point. To be clear, nowhere in that article suggests that valve would be making a profit on the current price, or that they "have to make a profit" - just that they would not sell it under cost. I'm genuinely confused how that becomes "profit motive", or shows greed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah, I see your point. To paraphrase, it says that they have to make a profit and can't guarantee game sales from their own store to offset any potential subsidisation. My point is that Gaben/Valve have billions and don't need the profit from it. So what if some people use it to play games from other stores? They'll be in the minority for sure. I guess everyone is too capitalism-brained to see past the profit motive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jeeva@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* I'm not sure you do see my point. To be clear, nowhere in that article suggests that valve would be making a profit on the current price, or that they "have to make a profit" - just that they would not sell it under cost. I'm genuinely confused how that becomes "profit motive", or shows greed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jeeva@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* I'm not sure you do see my point. To be clear, nowhere in that article suggests that valve would be making a profit on the current price, or that they "have to make a profit" - just that they would not sell it under cost. I'm genuinely confused how that becomes "profit motive", or shows greed. permalink fedilink source parent