▲ -6 ▼ Depressed? You should try keto. (hackertalks.com) submitted 1 month ago by jet@hackertalks.com [M] to c/ketogenic@discuss.online 16 comments fedilink hide all child comments Lots of people we know are depressed, you might be depressed. Keto is a power tool in metabolic psychiatry and should be the first leaver people try to address persistent depression. A 5m video introducing the idea: https://youtu.be/Stx1SkEHhmU A 90m lecture on metabolic psychiatry mechanisms from Dr Ede - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkB6VheKmCg And a book on metabolic psychiatry Change your Diet Change your Mind - https://www.amazon.com/Change-Your-Diet-Mind-Powerful/dp/1538739070 Metabolic Mind has a page dedicated to the research: metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 3 points 1 month ago (2 children) Depressed? Your should try shrooms. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] matelt@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago ¿Porque no los dos? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) Citations please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children) You haven't got any citations, either. The website you linked has a research database. Click on a few on the studies and read the abstracts. It all seems very speculative and preliminary... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The website you linked has a research database .... does that not count as citations? How about - https://doi.org/10.1038/s41398-025-03544-8 - A pilot study examining a ketogenic diet as an adjunct therapy in college students with major depressive disorder Which i've posted before https://discuss.online/post/27361403 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) shown promise as an adjunctive therapy n = 24 This study utilized a single-arm design without a control or dietary comparison group. Thus, it is not possible to isolate the effects of the WFKD from counseling and/or medication or to know how time alone would alter depression symptoms or cognitive performance. I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It's certainly something people could try. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It’s certainly something people could try. Yup! Early days in metabolic psychiatry. But since keto is free (you got to eat anyway), doesn't require a doctor's visit, and is tolerated very well by people - why not try it first? permalink fedilink source parent [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* Yes, we do. Jet's provided that. But maybe you think we are all about spreading misinformation and you'd really prefer a statement from an authority. How do you feel about Stanford? https://med.stanford.edu/news/insights/2025/04/keto-diet-ketogenic-therapy-mental-illness-bipolar.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) The fucking internet ffs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) This is a community focused on metabolic health. There are plenty of other communities where you can tell others to try taking psychedelics for depression, but here we are primarily focused on the discussion of the various aspects of metabolic health and how they help with illnesses. Also we'd prefer sources more credible than "the fucking internet, ffs" Psychedelics can work as adjunct therapies to therapeutic carbohydrate restriction. If you have interesting research, case studies, or testimonials to share we'd like that very much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Can I have the peer reviewed study for OP’s claims please? Thanks in advance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) OP's claims are peer reviewed. It's clear to me you haven't bothered to read them. See the third resource: http://metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ Please also read the rules of this community, in the sidebar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) No. The page itself is not a peer-reviewed scientific paper. It is an informational article published by “Metabolic Mind,” an education and advocacy initiative of Baszucki Group focused on metabolic psychiatry. So I ask again… peer reviewed scientific studies please. Otherwise, this is misleading medical advice and should probably not be here. Unsurprisingly, I see nothing in the sidebar about “truth” being a requirement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is once again very clear to me that you haven't read anything on the page itself. Since you are not engaging in good faith, I see no reason to continue our conversation. I'm removing you from the community since you don't participate in a manner that is constructive. Rule 1, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 4, and also because you are using an LLM. If you believe your ban to be in error, you may contact the moderation team for a review of the ban. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ papers are listed on the page permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) Citations please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children) You haven't got any citations, either. The website you linked has a research database. Click on a few on the studies and read the abstracts. It all seems very speculative and preliminary... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The website you linked has a research database .... does that not count as citations? How about - https://doi.org/10.1038/s41398-025-03544-8 - A pilot study examining a ketogenic diet as an adjunct therapy in college students with major depressive disorder Which i've posted before https://discuss.online/post/27361403 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) shown promise as an adjunctive therapy n = 24 This study utilized a single-arm design without a control or dietary comparison group. Thus, it is not possible to isolate the effects of the WFKD from counseling and/or medication or to know how time alone would alter depression symptoms or cognitive performance. I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It's certainly something people could try. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It’s certainly something people could try. Yup! Early days in metabolic psychiatry. But since keto is free (you got to eat anyway), doesn't require a doctor's visit, and is tolerated very well by people - why not try it first? permalink fedilink source parent [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* Yes, we do. Jet's provided that. But maybe you think we are all about spreading misinformation and you'd really prefer a statement from an authority. How do you feel about Stanford? https://med.stanford.edu/news/insights/2025/04/keto-diet-ketogenic-therapy-mental-illness-bipolar.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) The fucking internet ffs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) This is a community focused on metabolic health. There are plenty of other communities where you can tell others to try taking psychedelics for depression, but here we are primarily focused on the discussion of the various aspects of metabolic health and how they help with illnesses. Also we'd prefer sources more credible than "the fucking internet, ffs" Psychedelics can work as adjunct therapies to therapeutic carbohydrate restriction. If you have interesting research, case studies, or testimonials to share we'd like that very much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Can I have the peer reviewed study for OP’s claims please? Thanks in advance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) OP's claims are peer reviewed. It's clear to me you haven't bothered to read them. See the third resource: http://metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ Please also read the rules of this community, in the sidebar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) No. The page itself is not a peer-reviewed scientific paper. It is an informational article published by “Metabolic Mind,” an education and advocacy initiative of Baszucki Group focused on metabolic psychiatry. So I ask again… peer reviewed scientific studies please. Otherwise, this is misleading medical advice and should probably not be here. Unsurprisingly, I see nothing in the sidebar about “truth” being a requirement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is once again very clear to me that you haven't read anything on the page itself. Since you are not engaging in good faith, I see no reason to continue our conversation. I'm removing you from the community since you don't participate in a manner that is constructive. Rule 1, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 4, and also because you are using an LLM. If you believe your ban to be in error, you may contact the moderation team for a review of the ban. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ papers are listed on the page permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children) You haven't got any citations, either. The website you linked has a research database. Click on a few on the studies and read the abstracts. It all seems very speculative and preliminary... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The website you linked has a research database .... does that not count as citations? How about - https://doi.org/10.1038/s41398-025-03544-8 - A pilot study examining a ketogenic diet as an adjunct therapy in college students with major depressive disorder Which i've posted before https://discuss.online/post/27361403 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) shown promise as an adjunctive therapy n = 24 This study utilized a single-arm design without a control or dietary comparison group. Thus, it is not possible to isolate the effects of the WFKD from counseling and/or medication or to know how time alone would alter depression symptoms or cognitive performance. I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It's certainly something people could try. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It’s certainly something people could try. Yup! Early days in metabolic psychiatry. But since keto is free (you got to eat anyway), doesn't require a doctor's visit, and is tolerated very well by people - why not try it first? permalink fedilink source parent [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* Yes, we do. Jet's provided that. But maybe you think we are all about spreading misinformation and you'd really prefer a statement from an authority. How do you feel about Stanford? https://med.stanford.edu/news/insights/2025/04/keto-diet-ketogenic-therapy-mental-illness-bipolar.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The website you linked has a research database .... does that not count as citations? How about - https://doi.org/10.1038/s41398-025-03544-8 - A pilot study examining a ketogenic diet as an adjunct therapy in college students with major depressive disorder Which i've posted before https://discuss.online/post/27361403 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) shown promise as an adjunctive therapy n = 24 This study utilized a single-arm design without a control or dietary comparison group. Thus, it is not possible to isolate the effects of the WFKD from counseling and/or medication or to know how time alone would alter depression symptoms or cognitive performance. I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It's certainly something people could try. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It’s certainly something people could try. Yup! Early days in metabolic psychiatry. But since keto is free (you got to eat anyway), doesn't require a doctor's visit, and is tolerated very well by people - why not try it first? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) shown promise as an adjunctive therapy n = 24 This study utilized a single-arm design without a control or dietary comparison group. Thus, it is not possible to isolate the effects of the WFKD from counseling and/or medication or to know how time alone would alter depression symptoms or cognitive performance. I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It's certainly something people could try. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It’s certainly something people could try. Yup! Early days in metabolic psychiatry. But since keto is free (you got to eat anyway), doesn't require a doctor's visit, and is tolerated very well by people - why not try it first? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago I think speculative and preliminary is accurate. It’s certainly something people could try. Yup! Early days in metabolic psychiatry. But since keto is free (you got to eat anyway), doesn't require a doctor's visit, and is tolerated very well by people - why not try it first? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* Yes, we do. Jet's provided that. But maybe you think we are all about spreading misinformation and you'd really prefer a statement from an authority. How do you feel about Stanford? https://med.stanford.edu/news/insights/2025/04/keto-diet-ketogenic-therapy-mental-illness-bipolar.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) The fucking internet ffs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) This is a community focused on metabolic health. There are plenty of other communities where you can tell others to try taking psychedelics for depression, but here we are primarily focused on the discussion of the various aspects of metabolic health and how they help with illnesses. Also we'd prefer sources more credible than "the fucking internet, ffs" Psychedelics can work as adjunct therapies to therapeutic carbohydrate restriction. If you have interesting research, case studies, or testimonials to share we'd like that very much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Can I have the peer reviewed study for OP’s claims please? Thanks in advance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) OP's claims are peer reviewed. It's clear to me you haven't bothered to read them. See the third resource: http://metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ Please also read the rules of this community, in the sidebar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) No. The page itself is not a peer-reviewed scientific paper. It is an informational article published by “Metabolic Mind,” an education and advocacy initiative of Baszucki Group focused on metabolic psychiatry. So I ask again… peer reviewed scientific studies please. Otherwise, this is misleading medical advice and should probably not be here. Unsurprisingly, I see nothing in the sidebar about “truth” being a requirement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is once again very clear to me that you haven't read anything on the page itself. Since you are not engaging in good faith, I see no reason to continue our conversation. I'm removing you from the community since you don't participate in a manner that is constructive. Rule 1, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 4, and also because you are using an LLM. If you believe your ban to be in error, you may contact the moderation team for a review of the ban. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ papers are listed on the page permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) This is a community focused on metabolic health. There are plenty of other communities where you can tell others to try taking psychedelics for depression, but here we are primarily focused on the discussion of the various aspects of metabolic health and how they help with illnesses. Also we'd prefer sources more credible than "the fucking internet, ffs" Psychedelics can work as adjunct therapies to therapeutic carbohydrate restriction. If you have interesting research, case studies, or testimonials to share we'd like that very much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Can I have the peer reviewed study for OP’s claims please? Thanks in advance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) OP's claims are peer reviewed. It's clear to me you haven't bothered to read them. See the third resource: http://metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ Please also read the rules of this community, in the sidebar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) No. The page itself is not a peer-reviewed scientific paper. It is an informational article published by “Metabolic Mind,” an education and advocacy initiative of Baszucki Group focused on metabolic psychiatry. So I ask again… peer reviewed scientific studies please. Otherwise, this is misleading medical advice and should probably not be here. Unsurprisingly, I see nothing in the sidebar about “truth” being a requirement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is once again very clear to me that you haven't read anything on the page itself. Since you are not engaging in good faith, I see no reason to continue our conversation. I'm removing you from the community since you don't participate in a manner that is constructive. Rule 1, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 4, and also because you are using an LLM. If you believe your ban to be in error, you may contact the moderation team for a review of the ban. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ papers are listed on the page permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Can I have the peer reviewed study for OP’s claims please? Thanks in advance permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) OP's claims are peer reviewed. It's clear to me you haven't bothered to read them. See the third resource: http://metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ Please also read the rules of this community, in the sidebar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) No. The page itself is not a peer-reviewed scientific paper. It is an informational article published by “Metabolic Mind,” an education and advocacy initiative of Baszucki Group focused on metabolic psychiatry. So I ask again… peer reviewed scientific studies please. Otherwise, this is misleading medical advice and should probably not be here. Unsurprisingly, I see nothing in the sidebar about “truth” being a requirement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is once again very clear to me that you haven't read anything on the page itself. Since you are not engaging in good faith, I see no reason to continue our conversation. I'm removing you from the community since you don't participate in a manner that is constructive. Rule 1, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 4, and also because you are using an LLM. If you believe your ban to be in error, you may contact the moderation team for a review of the ban. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ papers are listed on the page permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) OP's claims are peer reviewed. It's clear to me you haven't bothered to read them. See the third resource: http://metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ Please also read the rules of this community, in the sidebar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) No. The page itself is not a peer-reviewed scientific paper. It is an informational article published by “Metabolic Mind,” an education and advocacy initiative of Baszucki Group focused on metabolic psychiatry. So I ask again… peer reviewed scientific studies please. Otherwise, this is misleading medical advice and should probably not be here. Unsurprisingly, I see nothing in the sidebar about “truth” being a requirement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is once again very clear to me that you haven't read anything on the page itself. Since you are not engaging in good faith, I see no reason to continue our conversation. I'm removing you from the community since you don't participate in a manner that is constructive. Rule 1, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 4, and also because you are using an LLM. If you believe your ban to be in error, you may contact the moderation team for a review of the ban. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ papers are listed on the page permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) No. The page itself is not a peer-reviewed scientific paper. It is an informational article published by “Metabolic Mind,” an education and advocacy initiative of Baszucki Group focused on metabolic psychiatry. So I ask again… peer reviewed scientific studies please. Otherwise, this is misleading medical advice and should probably not be here. Unsurprisingly, I see nothing in the sidebar about “truth” being a requirement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is once again very clear to me that you haven't read anything on the page itself. Since you are not engaging in good faith, I see no reason to continue our conversation. I'm removing you from the community since you don't participate in a manner that is constructive. Rule 1, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 4, and also because you are using an LLM. If you believe your ban to be in error, you may contact the moderation team for a review of the ban. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ papers are listed on the page permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is once again very clear to me that you haven't read anything on the page itself. Since you are not engaging in good faith, I see no reason to continue our conversation. I'm removing you from the community since you don't participate in a manner that is constructive. Rule 1, Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 4, and also because you are using an LLM. If you believe your ban to be in error, you may contact the moderation team for a review of the ban. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jet@hackertalks.com [S] 2 points 1 month ago metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/keto-for-depression/ papers are listed on the page permalink fedilink source parent