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There is no pro capitalist left (lemmy.ml)

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Have we not heard of liberals?

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[–] thinkyfish@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 child)

liberals are right wing.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

even democratic socialists? genuinely curious, trying to map your spectrum

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[–] FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

Democratic socialists are not capitalist, they're socialist. You're thinking of social democrats.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

Kind of splitting hairs at this point, but if the defining feature of capitalism is the private ownership of business, then I'd say demsocs would still qualify as capitalists. But maybe we have different notions of capitalism.

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[–] FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Its not splitting hairs at all. Demsocs are straight up not capitalists. They believe in collective ownership, not private. You're confusing it for social democracy.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

Ah yeah my bad. I confused it for what we have/had in Europe, like nordic model type stuff. But I guess that's socdems then. You have to admit the naming is confusing.

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

It is, but that tends to happen in politics. The Nazi party was nominally a socialist worker's party

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[–] Killercat103@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

It's really not. Sure the naming might be confusing and basically a repetition of "Judeas Peoples Front". But the difference of ideology is rather noticeably large.

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