▲ 28 ▼ Farage trying to block ‘Britcoin’ plans that could be costly for billionaire donor (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 month ago by Veserr@sh.itjust.works to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk 6 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ladel@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) His reasons for opposing it might be wrong, but what is the point in a state-run crytpocurrency? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Womble@piefed.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Largely to ween ourselves off the dependence of Visa and Mastercard, who are currently skimming off huge amounts of money across the whole world by having a near duopoly on payments. Cryptobros are wrong about a lot of things, and proof of work / proof of stake are both terrible in their own ways, but they aren't wrong about the problems with the traditional payment systems (even if bitcoin et al introduce more and worse flaws). A digital currency backed by a central bank gets rid of the wasteful mining (the BoE is allowed to just create currency from nothing, that's its job) and provides the regulation that is so badly missing from crypto—which is why it is so scam infested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matt1126@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Or you could have a publicly owned payment scheme that uses regular money, see debit cards in France (and Germany?) Or the mobile payment options in Sweden and Norway (and also Denmark maybe?) You don’t need crypto to fulfill the same function as Visa, Mastercard, Discover, American Express, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matt1126@feddit.uk 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Only saw this now, so apologies for a delayed reply; I don’t understand what you mean, they only mentioned a new digital currency; I made a point that you don’t need a separate digital currency, what other reasons are you referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) It becomes impossible to avoid taxes. The flow of money through the economy would be easier to trace and examine. Increasing and decreasing the monetary supply becomes trivial to control inflationary or deflationary pressures. money laundering becomes difficult, since every transaction can be scrutinized. The only useful purpose for crypto is as fiat currency. Whether that’s a good idea is another matter, since it would eliminate transaction privacy. Since governments are becoming more fascistic, I generally think this is a bad idea, since it would give governments more power (to do good or evil). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 point 1 month ago I'm with you. The billionaires will always find a way around this if the transaction record isnt fully public. This hurts fly-by-night cash workers more than anyone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Womble@piefed.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Largely to ween ourselves off the dependence of Visa and Mastercard, who are currently skimming off huge amounts of money across the whole world by having a near duopoly on payments. Cryptobros are wrong about a lot of things, and proof of work / proof of stake are both terrible in their own ways, but they aren't wrong about the problems with the traditional payment systems (even if bitcoin et al introduce more and worse flaws). A digital currency backed by a central bank gets rid of the wasteful mining (the BoE is allowed to just create currency from nothing, that's its job) and provides the regulation that is so badly missing from crypto—which is why it is so scam infested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matt1126@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Or you could have a publicly owned payment scheme that uses regular money, see debit cards in France (and Germany?) Or the mobile payment options in Sweden and Norway (and also Denmark maybe?) You don’t need crypto to fulfill the same function as Visa, Mastercard, Discover, American Express, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matt1126@feddit.uk 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Only saw this now, so apologies for a delayed reply; I don’t understand what you mean, they only mentioned a new digital currency; I made a point that you don’t need a separate digital currency, what other reasons are you referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matt1126@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Or you could have a publicly owned payment scheme that uses regular money, see debit cards in France (and Germany?) Or the mobile payment options in Sweden and Norway (and also Denmark maybe?) You don’t need crypto to fulfill the same function as Visa, Mastercard, Discover, American Express, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matt1126@feddit.uk 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Only saw this now, so apologies for a delayed reply; I don’t understand what you mean, they only mentioned a new digital currency; I made a point that you don’t need a separate digital currency, what other reasons are you referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matt1126@feddit.uk 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Only saw this now, so apologies for a delayed reply; I don’t understand what you mean, they only mentioned a new digital currency; I made a point that you don’t need a separate digital currency, what other reasons are you referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matt1126@feddit.uk 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Only saw this now, so apologies for a delayed reply; I don’t understand what you mean, they only mentioned a new digital currency; I made a point that you don’t need a separate digital currency, what other reasons are you referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) It becomes impossible to avoid taxes. The flow of money through the economy would be easier to trace and examine. Increasing and decreasing the monetary supply becomes trivial to control inflationary or deflationary pressures. money laundering becomes difficult, since every transaction can be scrutinized. The only useful purpose for crypto is as fiat currency. Whether that’s a good idea is another matter, since it would eliminate transaction privacy. Since governments are becoming more fascistic, I generally think this is a bad idea, since it would give governments more power (to do good or evil). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 point 1 month ago I'm with you. The billionaires will always find a way around this if the transaction record isnt fully public. This hurts fly-by-night cash workers more than anyone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 point 1 month ago I'm with you. The billionaires will always find a way around this if the transaction record isnt fully public. This hurts fly-by-night cash workers more than anyone permalink fedilink source parent