▲ 374 ▼ America has lost its war with Iran (www.independent.co.uk) submitted 1 month ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/world@lemmy.world 62 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/54889123
[+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago (4 children) America DONALD and BIBI have lost THEIR war with Iran. America did not vote for this, did not want it, and did not support it. In fact, America purposely voted against forever wars in 2024. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) Whatever you like it or not the president of the usa represent the state. The usa and israel lost the war permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Be that as it may, he's acting in direct contradiction to the objective wishes of the state and the electorate, so pretending this is something the American people support is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Nobody claimed this war had popular support. The legal framework of international relations consider the actions of the Head of State as the actions of the country itself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again." — George W. Bush When you vote for somebody who lied to you their first term, you're voting for whatever they want their second term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Undvik@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Why would you believe voting for Trump was voting against wars? It makes no sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It makes no sense Your opinion is incorrect. There were two good reasons to believe this: His record: Donald spent part of his first term disentangling us from the forever wars, particularly in Syria and Afghanistan, where his admin negotiated our withdrawal. He literally said 'No More Forever Wars' during his campaign. Those exact words. Repeatedly. Record corresponding to rhetoric is a very good reason to believe someone will adhere to what they say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Undvik@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And you believed him? You believed Trump's word? LOL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) Don't reply if you're not willing to actually read a person's response. It just makes you look silly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Undvik@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago I did read your response. And if the rest of Americans think like you the situation is more dire than I thought. Believing the word of a clearly demented fascist that will be in charge of the world's biggest military, the joke writes itself. And that's after you already had 4 years of trump. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ardha@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Every single vote is a way to legitimize the American government and system, the American government was founded on the idea of invading other people. If Americans want to vote against wars maybe they should actually organize and go shoot their politicians instead of voting for the parties that have been nothing but warmongers and coup doers in the past century. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) Whatever you like it or not the president of the usa represent the state. The usa and israel lost the war permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Be that as it may, he's acting in direct contradiction to the objective wishes of the state and the electorate, so pretending this is something the American people support is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Nobody claimed this war had popular support. The legal framework of international relations consider the actions of the Head of State as the actions of the country itself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Be that as it may, he's acting in direct contradiction to the objective wishes of the state and the electorate, so pretending this is something the American people support is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Nobody claimed this war had popular support. The legal framework of international relations consider the actions of the Head of State as the actions of the country itself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Nobody claimed this war had popular support. The legal framework of international relations consider the actions of the Head of State as the actions of the country itself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again." — George W. Bush When you vote for somebody who lied to you their first term, you're voting for whatever they want their second term. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Undvik@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Why would you believe voting for Trump was voting against wars? It makes no sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It makes no sense Your opinion is incorrect. There were two good reasons to believe this: His record: Donald spent part of his first term disentangling us from the forever wars, particularly in Syria and Afghanistan, where his admin negotiated our withdrawal. He literally said 'No More Forever Wars' during his campaign. Those exact words. Repeatedly. Record corresponding to rhetoric is a very good reason to believe someone will adhere to what they say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Undvik@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And you believed him? You believed Trump's word? LOL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) Don't reply if you're not willing to actually read a person's response. It just makes you look silly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Undvik@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago I did read your response. And if the rest of Americans think like you the situation is more dire than I thought. Believing the word of a clearly demented fascist that will be in charge of the world's biggest military, the joke writes itself. And that's after you already had 4 years of trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It makes no sense Your opinion is incorrect. There were two good reasons to believe this: His record: Donald spent part of his first term disentangling us from the forever wars, particularly in Syria and Afghanistan, where his admin negotiated our withdrawal. He literally said 'No More Forever Wars' during his campaign. Those exact words. Repeatedly. Record corresponding to rhetoric is a very good reason to believe someone will adhere to what they say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Undvik@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And you believed him? You believed Trump's word? LOL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) Don't reply if you're not willing to actually read a person's response. It just makes you look silly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Undvik@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago I did read your response. And if the rest of Americans think like you the situation is more dire than I thought. Believing the word of a clearly demented fascist that will be in charge of the world's biggest military, the joke writes itself. And that's after you already had 4 years of trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Undvik@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) And you believed him? You believed Trump's word? LOL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) Don't reply if you're not willing to actually read a person's response. It just makes you look silly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Undvik@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago I did read your response. And if the rest of Americans think like you the situation is more dire than I thought. Believing the word of a clearly demented fascist that will be in charge of the world's biggest military, the joke writes itself. And that's after you already had 4 years of trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) Don't reply if you're not willing to actually read a person's response. It just makes you look silly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Undvik@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago I did read your response. And if the rest of Americans think like you the situation is more dire than I thought. Believing the word of a clearly demented fascist that will be in charge of the world's biggest military, the joke writes itself. And that's after you already had 4 years of trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Undvik@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago I did read your response. And if the rest of Americans think like you the situation is more dire than I thought. Believing the word of a clearly demented fascist that will be in charge of the world's biggest military, the joke writes itself. And that's after you already had 4 years of trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ardha@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Every single vote is a way to legitimize the American government and system, the American government was founded on the idea of invading other people. If Americans want to vote against wars maybe they should actually organize and go shoot their politicians instead of voting for the parties that have been nothing but warmongers and coup doers in the past century. permalink fedilink source parent