▲ 354 ▼ Safe firearm storage may reduce blood lead levels in children (www.brown.edu) submitted 1 month ago by ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://feddit.uk/post/50832775
[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 15 points 1 month ago (2 children) Tungsten, too. The problem is really the cost. To go to the range and spend $30 would instead cost $150. I think the average person would buy the lead. I'll ask a friend of mine who worked at a range recently to see what people are spending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) Per friend: -$35 a person $12 for the second and ammo varies wildly. They start about $20/$30 a box for 9mm 50 rounds, but most people use 1/2 boxes ler trip" Also, per them, tungsten is a no-no due to its armor-piercing abilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) $20 for 50 rounds of 9mm is exceptionally high. 20-25 cents per round for target ammo is closer to reality. https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) It's probably the cost buying from the range. Might also be regional. I'm going to keep replying to myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mote@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago It is, the ranges mark up the ammo (what business doesn't) as they sell small quantities to a captive audience who will pay. Ammoseek represents the other end of the spectrum, ppl buying wholesale in larger quantities. Not represented are the hand loaders, typically sports-oriented going through a thousand a week in practice buying components at cost. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) That is fair, you can expect to pay double for the convenience of buying on site at a staffed range. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago As a company man, he says it "might be a little cheaper elsewhere," but they are the lowest price around for admission. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Is tungsten a no-no to carry around loaded, or is it simply unavailable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mnem667@retrofed.com 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm not a gun guy, but I've never heard of tungsten being used in bullets, and AFAIK it would severly damage the barrel, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I don't know about tungsten bullets, but I have heard of tungsten shot. You could probably jacket a tungsten bullet in a softer metal like copper to mitigate the damage to the barrel, but I feel like that's also gonna run up against armor piercing regulations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I think, from a report I did in middle school, that you have just described how armor piercing bullets function. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yeah, that's basically the gist of it, jacket a hard, dense penetrator in a softer metal so it doesn't damage the barrel But there's some edge cases like with m855 "green tip" 5.56 ammo which has a steel core inside a lead bullet and copper jacket, but generally isn't considered "armor piercing" even though it does penetrate armor slightly better than most other standard 5.56 rounds So I'm gonna hedge me bets and say there may be a case where a tungsten bullet may not be considered armor piercing but I don't know the specifics of where that line would be drawn. permalink fedilink source parent [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Shooting a gun probably "should* cost more money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EnderofGames@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago A classic from 1999 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) Per friend: -$35 a person $12 for the second and ammo varies wildly. They start about $20/$30 a box for 9mm 50 rounds, but most people use 1/2 boxes ler trip" Also, per them, tungsten is a no-no due to its armor-piercing abilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) $20 for 50 rounds of 9mm is exceptionally high. 20-25 cents per round for target ammo is closer to reality. https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) It's probably the cost buying from the range. Might also be regional. I'm going to keep replying to myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mote@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago It is, the ranges mark up the ammo (what business doesn't) as they sell small quantities to a captive audience who will pay. Ammoseek represents the other end of the spectrum, ppl buying wholesale in larger quantities. Not represented are the hand loaders, typically sports-oriented going through a thousand a week in practice buying components at cost. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) That is fair, you can expect to pay double for the convenience of buying on site at a staffed range. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago As a company man, he says it "might be a little cheaper elsewhere," but they are the lowest price around for admission. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Is tungsten a no-no to carry around loaded, or is it simply unavailable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mnem667@retrofed.com 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm not a gun guy, but I've never heard of tungsten being used in bullets, and AFAIK it would severly damage the barrel, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I don't know about tungsten bullets, but I have heard of tungsten shot. You could probably jacket a tungsten bullet in a softer metal like copper to mitigate the damage to the barrel, but I feel like that's also gonna run up against armor piercing regulations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I think, from a report I did in middle school, that you have just described how armor piercing bullets function. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yeah, that's basically the gist of it, jacket a hard, dense penetrator in a softer metal so it doesn't damage the barrel But there's some edge cases like with m855 "green tip" 5.56 ammo which has a steel core inside a lead bullet and copper jacket, but generally isn't considered "armor piercing" even though it does penetrate armor slightly better than most other standard 5.56 rounds So I'm gonna hedge me bets and say there may be a case where a tungsten bullet may not be considered armor piercing but I don't know the specifics of where that line would be drawn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) $20 for 50 rounds of 9mm is exceptionally high. 20-25 cents per round for target ammo is closer to reality. https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) It's probably the cost buying from the range. Might also be regional. I'm going to keep replying to myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mote@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago It is, the ranges mark up the ammo (what business doesn't) as they sell small quantities to a captive audience who will pay. Ammoseek represents the other end of the spectrum, ppl buying wholesale in larger quantities. Not represented are the hand loaders, typically sports-oriented going through a thousand a week in practice buying components at cost. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) That is fair, you can expect to pay double for the convenience of buying on site at a staffed range. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago As a company man, he says it "might be a little cheaper elsewhere," but they are the lowest price around for admission. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) It's probably the cost buying from the range. Might also be regional. I'm going to keep replying to myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mote@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago It is, the ranges mark up the ammo (what business doesn't) as they sell small quantities to a captive audience who will pay. Ammoseek represents the other end of the spectrum, ppl buying wholesale in larger quantities. Not represented are the hand loaders, typically sports-oriented going through a thousand a week in practice buying components at cost. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) That is fair, you can expect to pay double for the convenience of buying on site at a staffed range. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago As a company man, he says it "might be a little cheaper elsewhere," but they are the lowest price around for admission. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mote@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago It is, the ranges mark up the ammo (what business doesn't) as they sell small quantities to a captive audience who will pay. Ammoseek represents the other end of the spectrum, ppl buying wholesale in larger quantities. Not represented are the hand loaders, typically sports-oriented going through a thousand a week in practice buying components at cost. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) That is fair, you can expect to pay double for the convenience of buying on site at a staffed range. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago As a company man, he says it "might be a little cheaper elsewhere," but they are the lowest price around for admission. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago As a company man, he says it "might be a little cheaper elsewhere," but they are the lowest price around for admission. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Is tungsten a no-no to carry around loaded, or is it simply unavailable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mnem667@retrofed.com 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm not a gun guy, but I've never heard of tungsten being used in bullets, and AFAIK it would severly damage the barrel, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I don't know about tungsten bullets, but I have heard of tungsten shot. You could probably jacket a tungsten bullet in a softer metal like copper to mitigate the damage to the barrel, but I feel like that's also gonna run up against armor piercing regulations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I think, from a report I did in middle school, that you have just described how armor piercing bullets function. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yeah, that's basically the gist of it, jacket a hard, dense penetrator in a softer metal so it doesn't damage the barrel But there's some edge cases like with m855 "green tip" 5.56 ammo which has a steel core inside a lead bullet and copper jacket, but generally isn't considered "armor piercing" even though it does penetrate armor slightly better than most other standard 5.56 rounds So I'm gonna hedge me bets and say there may be a case where a tungsten bullet may not be considered armor piercing but I don't know the specifics of where that line would be drawn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mnem667@retrofed.com 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm not a gun guy, but I've never heard of tungsten being used in bullets, and AFAIK it would severly damage the barrel, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I don't know about tungsten bullets, but I have heard of tungsten shot. You could probably jacket a tungsten bullet in a softer metal like copper to mitigate the damage to the barrel, but I feel like that's also gonna run up against armor piercing regulations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I think, from a report I did in middle school, that you have just described how armor piercing bullets function. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yeah, that's basically the gist of it, jacket a hard, dense penetrator in a softer metal so it doesn't damage the barrel But there's some edge cases like with m855 "green tip" 5.56 ammo which has a steel core inside a lead bullet and copper jacket, but generally isn't considered "armor piercing" even though it does penetrate armor slightly better than most other standard 5.56 rounds So I'm gonna hedge me bets and say there may be a case where a tungsten bullet may not be considered armor piercing but I don't know the specifics of where that line would be drawn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I don't know about tungsten bullets, but I have heard of tungsten shot. You could probably jacket a tungsten bullet in a softer metal like copper to mitigate the damage to the barrel, but I feel like that's also gonna run up against armor piercing regulations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I think, from a report I did in middle school, that you have just described how armor piercing bullets function. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yeah, that's basically the gist of it, jacket a hard, dense penetrator in a softer metal so it doesn't damage the barrel But there's some edge cases like with m855 "green tip" 5.56 ammo which has a steel core inside a lead bullet and copper jacket, but generally isn't considered "armor piercing" even though it does penetrate armor slightly better than most other standard 5.56 rounds So I'm gonna hedge me bets and say there may be a case where a tungsten bullet may not be considered armor piercing but I don't know the specifics of where that line would be drawn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I think, from a report I did in middle school, that you have just described how armor piercing bullets function. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yeah, that's basically the gist of it, jacket a hard, dense penetrator in a softer metal so it doesn't damage the barrel But there's some edge cases like with m855 "green tip" 5.56 ammo which has a steel core inside a lead bullet and copper jacket, but generally isn't considered "armor piercing" even though it does penetrate armor slightly better than most other standard 5.56 rounds So I'm gonna hedge me bets and say there may be a case where a tungsten bullet may not be considered armor piercing but I don't know the specifics of where that line would be drawn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yeah, that's basically the gist of it, jacket a hard, dense penetrator in a softer metal so it doesn't damage the barrel But there's some edge cases like with m855 "green tip" 5.56 ammo which has a steel core inside a lead bullet and copper jacket, but generally isn't considered "armor piercing" even though it does penetrate armor slightly better than most other standard 5.56 rounds So I'm gonna hedge me bets and say there may be a case where a tungsten bullet may not be considered armor piercing but I don't know the specifics of where that line would be drawn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Shooting a gun probably "should* cost more money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EnderofGames@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago A classic from 1999 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EnderofGames@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago A classic from 1999 permalink fedilink source parent