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X11 vs Wayland (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 1 month ago by to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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What's the difference for a real user between using X11 or Wayland nowdays? I haven't found anything useful on the internet, so I'm asking you. Internet articles on the topic (and about WMs too) seem to be advertising slop since they explain anything but the real things. Also, if anyone used the XLibre fork, I would love to hear about your experience with it.

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[–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Some things still don't work on Wayland.
(Like screen sharing with Anydesk, as an example I ran into yesterday)
But at this point, I just replace the thing that still requires X11 with an alternative, or find a different solution.
X11 is dead tech. Wayland has its own issues, but it's better than X11 in almost every way now, actively maintained, and it's the current standard.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    no screensharing seems to work, at least none of those i tested, not even jitsi meet. i get the point of "being maintained". but but what does it actually do better?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Test better.

    • Discord works
    • Teams works
    • OBS works
    • Sunshine works like a charm
    • Built-in VNC/RDP servers work
    • I think zoom also works

    Of course you can expect things with names like "Xultra-Xold-Xscreen-Xsharing-Xtool-11" to not work. Trying any of those and complaining it doesn't work is just disingenuous and facetious.

    Edit: I forgot you had a real question after the misinformation. Here's some things Wayland does better

    • It supports HDR
    • It doesn't tear
    • It's by design more efficient
    • It's more secure
    • It actually support track pads with kinetic scrolling (if you think kinetic scrolling works on X11 it means you don't know how it works)
    • To crash the screensaver you need to crash the whole desktop, which means you don't get unauthorized access to it
    • It actually supports multiple monitor (with different resolutions, different scales and different refresh rates)
    • They just merged actual support for multiple GPUs (xorg doesn't have that)
    • It supports explicit sync (xorg supports just enough to run inside Wayland)
    • It's supported by Nvidia GPUs (for X11 you need to use Nvidia's closed source bespoke implementation of xorg)

    But it's just to name a few, you know...

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    What you listed is heavily dependent on compositor. Screensharing for my wayland setup meant setting up 6 deamons that talk among eachother. It's not difficult once set up, but still...

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