▲ 152 ▼ Working class neighborhoods are resisting data centers at 5 times the rate of wealthy ones (www.bloodinthemachine.com) submitted 1 month ago by alyaza@beehaw.org [M] to c/technology@beehaw.org 18 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago It might also be the kind of data center that is being built. Cheaper data centers are noisier, inefficient with water, etc Working class areas may already be distrustful towards large companies coming along and using up all of the local resources permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) The rich are also more educated. Lemmy hates AI, but other upper-middle-class types might just see a datacenter as a big box full of cool technology. To plumbers and cashiers, it's more of a new-fangled abomination we don't need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gens@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Being more educated doesn't make llms more useful. Being less educated doesn't make them less fun. Problem with them is the magnitude of the push vs their usefulness. There was no need for that massive of scaling. It's all "we must get all the investor money before we have to raise prices to become profitable". If there was any education behind making those slopcenters, they wouldn't make them gas powered in a desert. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, but appreciating what a big generic building does could require education. If there was any education behind making those slopcenters, they wouldn’t make them gas powered in a desert. Yes, they're designed and built by illiterate cavemen. /s Like, obviously you know engineers do that, and are educated and well compensated. It seems like you've drifted off to a different argument here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gens@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Also, poor people are likely to already encounter a massive polluter or nuisance being dropped around there for no benefit to them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yeah, past experiences with a wonderproject that actually turns out to be meh may very well be part of it. Especially if it's an older person. Speaking of pollution, the whole "wifi/5G causes cancer" thing is still out there too, and might be conflated with a datacenter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scytale@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Great, they should build them in those neighborhoods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago It might also be the kind of data center that is being built. Cheaper data centers are noisier, inefficient with water, etc Working class areas may already be distrustful towards large companies coming along and using up all of the local resources permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) The rich are also more educated. Lemmy hates AI, but other upper-middle-class types might just see a datacenter as a big box full of cool technology. To plumbers and cashiers, it's more of a new-fangled abomination we don't need. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gens@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Being more educated doesn't make llms more useful. Being less educated doesn't make them less fun. Problem with them is the magnitude of the push vs their usefulness. There was no need for that massive of scaling. It's all "we must get all the investor money before we have to raise prices to become profitable". If there was any education behind making those slopcenters, they wouldn't make them gas powered in a desert. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, but appreciating what a big generic building does could require education. If there was any education behind making those slopcenters, they wouldn’t make them gas powered in a desert. Yes, they're designed and built by illiterate cavemen. /s Like, obviously you know engineers do that, and are educated and well compensated. It seems like you've drifted off to a different argument here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gens@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Also, poor people are likely to already encounter a massive polluter or nuisance being dropped around there for no benefit to them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yeah, past experiences with a wonderproject that actually turns out to be meh may very well be part of it. Especially if it's an older person. Speaking of pollution, the whole "wifi/5G causes cancer" thing is still out there too, and might be conflated with a datacenter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gens@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Being more educated doesn't make llms more useful. Being less educated doesn't make them less fun. Problem with them is the magnitude of the push vs their usefulness. There was no need for that massive of scaling. It's all "we must get all the investor money before we have to raise prices to become profitable". If there was any education behind making those slopcenters, they wouldn't make them gas powered in a desert. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, but appreciating what a big generic building does could require education. If there was any education behind making those slopcenters, they wouldn’t make them gas powered in a desert. Yes, they're designed and built by illiterate cavemen. /s Like, obviously you know engineers do that, and are educated and well compensated. It seems like you've drifted off to a different argument here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gens@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, but appreciating what a big generic building does could require education. If there was any education behind making those slopcenters, they wouldn’t make them gas powered in a desert. Yes, they're designed and built by illiterate cavemen. /s Like, obviously you know engineers do that, and are educated and well compensated. It seems like you've drifted off to a different argument here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gens@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Also, poor people are likely to already encounter a massive polluter or nuisance being dropped around there for no benefit to them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yeah, past experiences with a wonderproject that actually turns out to be meh may very well be part of it. Especially if it's an older person. Speaking of pollution, the whole "wifi/5G causes cancer" thing is still out there too, and might be conflated with a datacenter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Yeah, past experiences with a wonderproject that actually turns out to be meh may very well be part of it. Especially if it's an older person. Speaking of pollution, the whole "wifi/5G causes cancer" thing is still out there too, and might be conflated with a datacenter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scytale@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Great, they should build them in those neighborhoods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent