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Brave is charging $60 to remove features it added in the first place (www.xda-developers.com)
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[–] 303 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Yet people keep recommending products by this scummy company and pile on Firefox for slightest missteps.

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  • [–] 168 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Mozilla should be scrutinized, even if Firefox is currently the best option.

    I think the only thing keeping them inline is loud community backlash everytime they make one of those misssteps.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    People dont seem to be scrutinizing though. Its genuinely unhinged and often completely misinformed. They will jump on a single line of a legal text and use it to springboard into a world of scenarios even when Mozilla is saying its not true.

    It doesnt help improve the product it just makes people think all products are bad and fallback to whatever the comfortable majority is which is chrome.

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  • [+] -23 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Sorry man, but the minute Firefox added that keylogger, I dipped.

    Firefox rendering engine is dogshit and they are massively behind.

    This coming from someone that was using Netscape and Mozilla and Firefox since its release.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago

    Firefox doesn't include a keylogger. It does have the infamous privacy preserving attribution but this can easily be disabled in settings.

    In contrast, Chrome is literally a tool for Google to gain as much personal information as possible for Googles advertisement platform. It has the worst privacy features of the three major browsers and cannot be fully made private due to crippled extension support.

    Firefox engine has some catching up to do, but the Safari rendering engine is behind Firefox on features.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 month ago

    They removed the paw, they are worse than Chrome! I'm going to use an alternative version that cannot exist without the main project to teach them a lesson!

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  • [+] -45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    All of the current browsers have major drawbacks. Brave has many features that other browsers don't offer. They've made what is quickly becoming the industry standard adblocker, being adopted by Firefox, Waterfox, Comet, and even Ladybird browser. No extensions required.

    Most browsers don't allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis. That's why I use it primarily.

    Origin is free on Linux.

    Until Servo and Ladybird are ready, this strikes the best balance for privacy and usabllity, in my opinion

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Brave has many features that other browsers don’t offer

    Such as? Crypto nonsense?

    The adblocker? OK I guess, except they are still just a middle man for ads (hence the crypto nonsense).

    I dont see the value.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Most browsers don’t allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis

    I don't know what "certain features" are. LibreWolf lets me easily enable WebGL on per-site basis and uBlock could always do that anyway. I don't need to touch anything else.

    Origin is free on Linux.

    Yes, and you can also toggle everything off via config. That does not matter, it's still a scummy move that should be ridiculed. How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars? It's not "paying for convenience" it's a tax on tech incompetency.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I don't know what "certain features" are.

    Would you like to know or were just just wanting to be contrarian?

    How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars?

    It's not. And its not supposed to be. Its to fund the development of the browser.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    It’s not. And its not supposed to be. Its to fund the development of the browser.

    "Deal with worse UX or pay us to develop more crap" is not a good way to entice "voluntary" donations. Though I guess they know their audience is full of copium anyway, maybe it is an effective way at least, we'll see.

    Would you like to know or were just just wanting to be contrarian?

    Funny you should say that, usually when I check tech threads - somehow you're always there being downvoted to all hell for writing something edgy in a very pedantic (i.e. obnoxious) way. Including this thread. You could have just listed the damn features twice already when prompted about them, but you're actively choosing to continue bullshitting as though you're on twitter and farming for clout. I think I'll just block you now.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    "Deal with worse UX or pay us to develop more crap" is not a good way to entice "voluntary" donations.

    That's okay because that's not what's happening, as I've already explained. It is a purchase, not a donation. It's not a novel approach, many other beloved FOSS software take a similar approach to secure funding. Off the top of my head, Zorin OS, Immich, OSMAnd, OnlyOffice, Cryptpad, etc.

    You could have just listed the damn features twice already when prompted about them

    I was never prompted. You could have just asked. But I think it's abundantly clear at this point that you just don't want to know.

    Thank you for blocking me, I appreciate it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I'm curious how their adblocker blocks more than 100% of all ads, cuz that's what they'd need to beat ublock (which existed before brave did).

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