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[–] 230 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Nothing can justify this.

Edit: You guys aren't getting this, so I'll explain it. This was senseless murder. Period. This wasn't some he said she said left versus right bullshit. Go ahead and say "actually" and go fuck yourself. I'm tired of this ridiculous nerd baiting bullshit. You're not funny. You're not witty. You're not scoring points. Life isn't reducible to the whims of some shitty sorting hat that rewards you points because you're not a cunt. This was senseless murder and should be treated as such without stupid fucking dry sarcasm.

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  • [+] -18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Nope it doesn't. They didn't rape the women at the music festival because of the Israeli bombs. They did it because they're monsters and they enjoyed it.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Can we see some proof of these rape claims? I've been scouring the news and have found nothing.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Should I know what you're trying to say here?

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  • [+] -26 points 2 years ago

    If all you people actually cared about Palestinians and didn't turn a blind eye about all the atrocities committed by Israel the past 70+ years, none of this would be happening now.

    You're removing the all context because you don't give a fuck about Palestinians and their treatment by Israel. You're trying to pretend this happened in a vacuum.

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  • [+] -37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Do you know how many thousands of civilians were killed by the allies in WW2? Do you think that was unjustified too?

    Nothing against you if you say yes, it's just about consistency.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    Yes. Yes that was. And very irrelevant to the topic at hand. What are you trying to do, get a moral compass of some guy on the internet? Then what, open discussion? This is baseless murder. Stop comparing and start raging at the injustice.

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  • [+] -39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Israel is reaping what they sowed.

    Maybe not justifiable, but 100% predictable and a direct response to Israel's illegal actions (and unfortunately, as usual, innocent civilians are the ones who suffer).

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    The people affected here aren't "Israel". They're just civilians trying to live their lives. Believe me I hate the Israeli govermnet and am very sympathetic to Palestinian soverignty.

    NOTHING justifies terrorism. It's evil and the people who did this are rats

    Edit: yeah downvote me you sacks of shit. They raped women next to dead bodies of their friends.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I didn't see the "they're just civilians" when Americans justify Hiroshima.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    people criticised the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima constantly, and continue to do so

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I thought so, until I happened to watch a reel about it on Instagram and the amount of comments "they deserved it for pearl harbor" was shocking.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    different people have different opinions, more in at 5

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's a dumb justification.

    An opinion can be subjective. You can like or dislike communism. But you cannot like or dislike genocide, unless you're sick in the head.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    its probably a dumb justification because i wasnt trying to justify anything

    im pointing out that some americans saying something isnt hypocritical or less valid just because you saw some other americans say something that contradicts it

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  • [+] -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying, why am I being downvoted and you upvoted?

    Edit: Well, I'm happy to know most people agree with me, despite misunderstanding my comment

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So you chill with Israel leveling Gaza then?

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Israel needs to stay tf out of gaza! did you read what I said???

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    I hate to break it to you, but Gaza is where Hamas is. Hamas decided to fuck around and they're going to find out, and it's not going to be pretty. Gaza will likely be completely leveled; it's too dangerous to allow Hamas to remain anywhere near Israel.

    Quick note: I'm not a fan of Israel either.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago

    You know that Israel will enter Gaza after this - with a huge army. And they will not start to indiscriminately kill civilians… but they will enter there, because they want to get attacked. And as soon as they get attacked, they will start flattening whole buildings from where they were attacked.

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  • [+] -40 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Lmao what serious Marxist is saying this is ok?

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You haven't looked at lemmygrad.ml then: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/2247249

    I don’t have a lot to say other than that, I hope the Palestinians will do as much damage to the apartheid state as possible

    all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.

    Also:

    Someone from federation reported your post for “hate speech”…

    So I banned them for being a zionist lol

    Why are we still federated with these terrorist supporters?

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    That one was “This post literally tries to validate mass genocide, abductions, and violence incited by Hamas.”

    Everything is genocide these days except for when Ukraine attacked their own people in the Donbass. That wasn’t genocide.

    Jesus.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wow, this is so edgy.

    Yes let me just fight Israel by becoming like Israel. That'll fix it!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Let me guess, you're one if these galaxy brains that thinks Ukraine defending itself is it being "just like Russia" too?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Sorry, I read your post over and over and brought my partner over to read it and we aren't sure we understand what you're saying. No, this isn't what I'm saying at all /:

    Yes let me just fight Israel by becoming like Israel.

    I meant, that Israel kills civilians. When we have a militant group Hamas killing civilians, they are being like Israel in that they exhibit this internationally-recognized-as-a-war-crime behaviour. I don't think Hamas needed to kill those people partying at that music festival, I don't think it was tactical, I don't think it was necessary, I don't think it drove the cause forward in any way, I actually think it's an atrocity. That being said, Hamas killing civilians never excuses Israel doing its apartheid and genocide.

    Sorry if my position wasn't unclear.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You're being downvoted, but a shit tonne of people are justifying the atrocities because it's againstna people they hate.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    I have seen this on several posts. I am yet to see those tones of people. All the stuff people linked to so far shows nothing but normal discussions. So excuse my sceptisim... Where is that tonne?

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