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[–] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

All numbers in AI are made up it's wild to see tankies glaze DeepSeek's fake numbers while being skeptical of Western corporations' numbers

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Not glazing when its simply enjoying watching China beat the US at its own game

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    But the numbers are fake, so it really doesn't mean much to reduce a fake number by 75%, it isn't an indicator that DeepSeek is beating anyone at anything.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Cost to end consumer is not a fake number.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What does that number meaningful represent as DeepSeek doing well?

    They can afford to lose more money on this? They have lower operating costs? They have a better way to make money of their users?

    It could indicate any/all/none of theses

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What does that number meaningful represent as DeepSeek doing well? I don't understand the question

    They can afford to lose more money on this? Yes They have lower operating costs? Yes They have a better way to make money of their users? They are not as profit motivated as their competition

    I don't think you understand Deepseek's role in the market. It's to intentionally undercut US providers.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What do you mean by the numbers are fake? Are you saying the worth is over inflated? If that's the case, of course it is, none too different than virtually any other commodity.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    What does that number meaningful represent as DeepSeek doing well?

    They can afford to lose more money on this? They have lower operating costs? They have a better way to make money of their users?

    It could indicate any/all/none of theses

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    All I see is good and cheap model. It doesn't even have to be perfect, just in ballpark of mainstream models.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Them cutting consumer prices doesn't show that though.

    It's wild that people normally critical of AI boosting will drink Koolaid if it's China flavored

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Most people don't care about Tiananmen square and politics. And cheap =/= bad. It's a fallacy

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