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Signal in 2026? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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Is it still viable to use Signal for privacy in 2026? It's centralized, and has had many suspicious occurrences in the past.(Unopen source server code, careless whisper exploit which is still active as far as I know, and the whole mobile coin situation.)

Thoughts?

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[–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

People are not as stupid as these large centralized sites like signal keep telling you they are. Ppl figured out how to make accounts on different services, forums, and platforms since the internet began. It is no more difficult to make a matrix account, or install simpleX than it is anything else. My partner and I figured out simplex within 10 minutes.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    So true. My non-technical friend asked about more private ways to communicate after things started to go bad where we live, and she had no problems understanding SimpleX. The actual user experience is a lot like FB Messenger, IMO.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh, I'm not saying people can't figure it out, but most normies won't try on principle or something. Hell, I've gotten pushback from software engineers when asking them to do Matrix. Signal is known enough that most normies will use it, though, and it at least is not explicitly known to be centrally backdoored in terms of the encryption like a Whatsapp, which in my experience is the other option normies will bear.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Most normies aren't using Signal either, they're all on Whatsapp and fb messenger. You'd be asking them to switch platforms to use Signal just as you would with any other app.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I successfully have multiple normies in my life on Signal. The no account/password is a big selling point. It's not perfect, but it's better than iMessage or Whatsapp, which are the two "this is good enough" options I see normies in my life wanting to use.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Vast majority of people, outside a tiny technical niche, aren't on Signal. And if you're going to get people to switch anyways, then why choose Signal when there are far better alternatives around.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    My sister and wife and parents aren't going to use Matrix or SimpleX. The no account or password, you just install on your phone and it's like iMessage basically sells them in a way I could NEVER get enough buy in for anything else. The way I see it, Signal's primary problem is the metadata availability, but the government knows I talk to my family, presumably, what I want to hide is the contents, which are as far as anybody knows, E2E as long as you're not using the Israeli Molly, but evil, app the Trump admin uses. I have tried since Threema to get these people on better platforms, Signal is a win in this case.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Using Element is no harder than Signal.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I agree. But I literally have software engineer bros who whine like little bitches about Matrix. I'm not stanning Signal, I try to Matrix where possible, but there are people in my life where Signal is the high watermark of what they will even try because they heard about it via Waltz accidentally putting Jeff Goldberg in the chat and there's no account setup.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Personally, I have yet to see anybody who was willing to use Signal whom I couldn't get to install the Element app instead. 🤷

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