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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) "Spiritual leader" is a huge stretch, dude was their dictator. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 39 points 4 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] AnalogJack@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 child) So no, that’s also not how that works. The Supreme Leader directly appoints and can dismiss at will 6 of the 12 members of the Council of Guardians that decides who can and cannot run for elected office. The Chief Justice appoints the other 6 but he is also directly appointed and can be dismissed by the Supreme Leader. Opposition candidate are routinely prevented from running. The Assembly of Experts selects and can dismiss the Supreme Leader but those members also have to be approved by the Council of Guardians so they’re all loyalists. The supreme leader is legally considered "inviolable", with Iranians being routinely punished for questioning or insulting him. Oh, he’s also the Commander-in-Chief of the Iranian armed forces too. He is not just a pope-like figure, he is the highest authority in the country with effective control over every government position and policy. Effectively, a dictator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -9 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I’ll do it for the other guy. https://www.britannica.com/topic/supreme-leader-of-Iran https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/inside/govt.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Leader_of_Iran permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -7 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) https://mumbai.mfa.gov.ir/en/generalcategoryservices/16250/government-of-iran So…the very first page here talks about part of it but leaves out the Guardian Council thing and its influence. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-presidential-election-process-2024-06-25/ The Reuters article shows more about the Guardian Council. Since pretty much every single thing I’m finding is talking about it and showing real people and reporting on news about it, about you tell the class why you think it’s all fake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago You haven’t really given any sources at all for that being the extent of their power, and you also seem to have very little understanding of the fact that a group picked out by the guy who commands the military is not easily ignored. You also talk about the Ayatollah like it’s a pope position yet he’s the guy who keeps showing up to foreign affairs stuff. Even in your own, un-sourced description you look kinda dumb. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 months ago If you call your debate opponent anything like "little buddy", "sweetheart", etc., you instantly lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent [–] johsny@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago Huh, til. Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent [–] S491@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago He was not the head of Shia Islam he was a grand Ayatollah, think of that as the head judge of a Supreme Court, an Ayatollah can be thought of as a judge who has spent their whole life dedicated to the study and application of religious law. Any time he makes a legal decision called a fatwa it is for people who choose to follow his, for lack of a better term, legal philosophy. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was arguably the second most important grand Ayatollah in Shia Islam, he just also happend to be the Supreme leader of Iran. The most important Ayatollah is Ayatollah Sistani in Iraq. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 4 months ago Less power than the Pope since the Vatican is its own city-state. Eta so extremist, he's the one standing between Iran and nuclear weapons, just like his father, peace be upon him. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 39 points 4 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] AnalogJack@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 child) So no, that’s also not how that works. The Supreme Leader directly appoints and can dismiss at will 6 of the 12 members of the Council of Guardians that decides who can and cannot run for elected office. The Chief Justice appoints the other 6 but he is also directly appointed and can be dismissed by the Supreme Leader. Opposition candidate are routinely prevented from running. The Assembly of Experts selects and can dismiss the Supreme Leader but those members also have to be approved by the Council of Guardians so they’re all loyalists. The supreme leader is legally considered "inviolable", with Iranians being routinely punished for questioning or insulting him. Oh, he’s also the Commander-in-Chief of the Iranian armed forces too. He is not just a pope-like figure, he is the highest authority in the country with effective control over every government position and policy. Effectively, a dictator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -9 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I’ll do it for the other guy. https://www.britannica.com/topic/supreme-leader-of-Iran https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/inside/govt.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Leader_of_Iran permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -7 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) https://mumbai.mfa.gov.ir/en/generalcategoryservices/16250/government-of-iran So…the very first page here talks about part of it but leaves out the Guardian Council thing and its influence. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-presidential-election-process-2024-06-25/ The Reuters article shows more about the Guardian Council. Since pretty much every single thing I’m finding is talking about it and showing real people and reporting on news about it, about you tell the class why you think it’s all fake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago You haven’t really given any sources at all for that being the extent of their power, and you also seem to have very little understanding of the fact that a group picked out by the guy who commands the military is not easily ignored. You also talk about the Ayatollah like it’s a pope position yet he’s the guy who keeps showing up to foreign affairs stuff. Even in your own, un-sourced description you look kinda dumb. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 months ago If you call your debate opponent anything like "little buddy", "sweetheart", etc., you instantly lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent [–] johsny@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago Huh, til. Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent [–] S491@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago He was not the head of Shia Islam he was a grand Ayatollah, think of that as the head judge of a Supreme Court, an Ayatollah can be thought of as a judge who has spent their whole life dedicated to the study and application of religious law. Any time he makes a legal decision called a fatwa it is for people who choose to follow his, for lack of a better term, legal philosophy. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was arguably the second most important grand Ayatollah in Shia Islam, he just also happend to be the Supreme leader of Iran. The most important Ayatollah is Ayatollah Sistani in Iraq. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 4 months ago Less power than the Pope since the Vatican is its own city-state. Eta so extremist, he's the one standing between Iran and nuclear weapons, just like his father, peace be upon him. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnalogJack@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 child) So no, that’s also not how that works. The Supreme Leader directly appoints and can dismiss at will 6 of the 12 members of the Council of Guardians that decides who can and cannot run for elected office. The Chief Justice appoints the other 6 but he is also directly appointed and can be dismissed by the Supreme Leader. Opposition candidate are routinely prevented from running. The Assembly of Experts selects and can dismiss the Supreme Leader but those members also have to be approved by the Council of Guardians so they’re all loyalists. The supreme leader is legally considered "inviolable", with Iranians being routinely punished for questioning or insulting him. Oh, he’s also the Commander-in-Chief of the Iranian armed forces too. He is not just a pope-like figure, he is the highest authority in the country with effective control over every government position and policy. Effectively, a dictator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -9 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I’ll do it for the other guy. https://www.britannica.com/topic/supreme-leader-of-Iran https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/inside/govt.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Leader_of_Iran permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -7 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) https://mumbai.mfa.gov.ir/en/generalcategoryservices/16250/government-of-iran So…the very first page here talks about part of it but leaves out the Guardian Council thing and its influence. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-presidential-election-process-2024-06-25/ The Reuters article shows more about the Guardian Council. Since pretty much every single thing I’m finding is talking about it and showing real people and reporting on news about it, about you tell the class why you think it’s all fake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago You haven’t really given any sources at all for that being the extent of their power, and you also seem to have very little understanding of the fact that a group picked out by the guy who commands the military is not easily ignored. You also talk about the Ayatollah like it’s a pope position yet he’s the guy who keeps showing up to foreign affairs stuff. Even in your own, un-sourced description you look kinda dumb. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 months ago If you call your debate opponent anything like "little buddy", "sweetheart", etc., you instantly lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -9 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I’ll do it for the other guy. https://www.britannica.com/topic/supreme-leader-of-Iran https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/inside/govt.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Leader_of_Iran permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -7 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) https://mumbai.mfa.gov.ir/en/generalcategoryservices/16250/government-of-iran So…the very first page here talks about part of it but leaves out the Guardian Council thing and its influence. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-presidential-election-process-2024-06-25/ The Reuters article shows more about the Guardian Council. Since pretty much every single thing I’m finding is talking about it and showing real people and reporting on news about it, about you tell the class why you think it’s all fake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago You haven’t really given any sources at all for that being the extent of their power, and you also seem to have very little understanding of the fact that a group picked out by the guy who commands the military is not easily ignored. You also talk about the Ayatollah like it’s a pope position yet he’s the guy who keeps showing up to foreign affairs stuff. Even in your own, un-sourced description you look kinda dumb. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 months ago If you call your debate opponent anything like "little buddy", "sweetheart", etc., you instantly lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soup@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I’ll do it for the other guy. https://www.britannica.com/topic/supreme-leader-of-Iran https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/inside/govt.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Leader_of_Iran permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -7 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) https://mumbai.mfa.gov.ir/en/generalcategoryservices/16250/government-of-iran So…the very first page here talks about part of it but leaves out the Guardian Council thing and its influence. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-presidential-election-process-2024-06-25/ The Reuters article shows more about the Guardian Council. Since pretty much every single thing I’m finding is talking about it and showing real people and reporting on news about it, about you tell the class why you think it’s all fake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago You haven’t really given any sources at all for that being the extent of their power, and you also seem to have very little understanding of the fact that a group picked out by the guy who commands the military is not easily ignored. You also talk about the Ayatollah like it’s a pope position yet he’s the guy who keeps showing up to foreign affairs stuff. Even in your own, un-sourced description you look kinda dumb. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -7 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) https://mumbai.mfa.gov.ir/en/generalcategoryservices/16250/government-of-iran So…the very first page here talks about part of it but leaves out the Guardian Council thing and its influence. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-presidential-election-process-2024-06-25/ The Reuters article shows more about the Guardian Council. Since pretty much every single thing I’m finding is talking about it and showing real people and reporting on news about it, about you tell the class why you think it’s all fake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago You haven’t really given any sources at all for that being the extent of their power, and you also seem to have very little understanding of the fact that a group picked out by the guy who commands the military is not easily ignored. You also talk about the Ayatollah like it’s a pope position yet he’s the guy who keeps showing up to foreign affairs stuff. Even in your own, un-sourced description you look kinda dumb. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) https://mumbai.mfa.gov.ir/en/generalcategoryservices/16250/government-of-iran So…the very first page here talks about part of it but leaves out the Guardian Council thing and its influence. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-presidential-election-process-2024-06-25/ The Reuters article shows more about the Guardian Council. Since pretty much every single thing I’m finding is talking about it and showing real people and reporting on news about it, about you tell the class why you think it’s all fake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago You haven’t really given any sources at all for that being the extent of their power, and you also seem to have very little understanding of the fact that a group picked out by the guy who commands the military is not easily ignored. You also talk about the Ayatollah like it’s a pope position yet he’s the guy who keeps showing up to foreign affairs stuff. Even in your own, un-sourced description you look kinda dumb. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago You haven’t really given any sources at all for that being the extent of their power, and you also seem to have very little understanding of the fact that a group picked out by the guy who commands the military is not easily ignored. You also talk about the Ayatollah like it’s a pope position yet he’s the guy who keeps showing up to foreign affairs stuff. Even in your own, un-sourced description you look kinda dumb. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago You haven’t really given any sources at all for that being the extent of their power, and you also seem to have very little understanding of the fact that a group picked out by the guy who commands the military is not easily ignored. You also talk about the Ayatollah like it’s a pope position yet he’s the guy who keeps showing up to foreign affairs stuff. Even in your own, un-sourced description you look kinda dumb. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 months ago If you call your debate opponent anything like "little buddy", "sweetheart", etc., you instantly lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] S491@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago He was not the head of Shia Islam he was a grand Ayatollah, think of that as the head judge of a Supreme Court, an Ayatollah can be thought of as a judge who has spent their whole life dedicated to the study and application of religious law. Any time he makes a legal decision called a fatwa it is for people who choose to follow his, for lack of a better term, legal philosophy. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was arguably the second most important grand Ayatollah in Shia Islam, he just also happend to be the Supreme leader of Iran. The most important Ayatollah is Ayatollah Sistani in Iraq. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 4 months ago Less power than the Pope since the Vatican is its own city-state. Eta so extremist, he's the one standing between Iran and nuclear weapons, just like his father, peace be upon him. permalink fedilink source parent
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