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Framework founder says that ‘personal computing as we know it is dead’ — vows to keep building ‘computers that you can own at the deepest level’ (www.tomshardware.com)
submitted 4 months ago by [M] to c/hardware@lemmy.world
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You will own nothing and be happy about it.

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[–] -5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

That makes him a racist bad enough but does he also call for dictatorship or genocide? Because that is what Nazis did. If only the dictatorship applies to him, we can debate it at least if he fits the description Nazi.

But then, I find the guy horrible anyhow and I don't care about Omarchy but like not everyone driving a Tesla is a right extreme, not everyone using Omarchy is one either.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That's "otherwise it's just sparkling fascism" level semantics.

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    It doesn't hurt to be precise with words but maybe that's just me. A racist is not necessarily trying to overthrow a democratic government, a fascist is.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You need to straighten out your definition of fascist. Hitler is a fascist. Take your favorite definition of fascist, like Ecco's or whatever, and Hitler will satisfy it. He does fascism. His policies are militaristic, nationalistic, he enacts laws to suppress minorities, etc. Someone who votes for Hitler does none of those things, but they're still a fascist by any sensible meaning of the word.

    Today, there are fascists operating in our democratic systems. From the British National Party to Trump. Not all of them are actively overthrowing the systems they exist in. One such fascist is Tommy Robinson. DHH has expressed explicit support for Robinson and his white nationalist rallies.

    You do not know DHH's politics. You don't know who he voted for. Nor do I. But we can make an educated guess based on his open white nationalism and his explicit support for fascists. If someone basically tells you "hi, I'm a fascist", you believe them.

    Also, I don't know who you think you're helping by playing these semantic games (based on shoddy definitions btw).

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    I was nowhere saying that Hitler wasn't fascist. A fascist needs to have at least the ambition to overthrow the democratic system with free and fair elections, rule of law and free media.

    The BNP and Trump fulfill that criterion. Does DHH do so? If so, can you please provide me with some source for that claim? I wasn't aware of that so far. He may very well be a secret fascist but anyone might be. So you speculate that he is a fascist because he is a racist. Fine, but that is speculation. Not every racist is a fascist even if there is some overlap.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    No, please read my full comment. He is very likely to be a fascist because he supports fascists. And you can find the source of his support of Robinson in my earlier comment.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I had a look at this Tommy Robinson. Yes, if DHH expressed support for that guy he is at least someone supporting a fascist. So a rascist supporting a fascist. So yes, one could speculate of DHH being a fascist but the post where he referenced Robinson's anti-immigration march (not Robinson directly) was exclusively about DHH's racist ideas. If he opposes democratic institutions, rule of law or free and fair elections he is at least not openly communicating about that.

    PS: I had a look at the list of projects and events Framework supports. I couldn't finds any mention of Omarchy or Ruby on Rails from the sponsoring list from 2025 till now.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Could you please explain why you're so desperately defending a white nationalist? And to reiterate my point, in bold, in the hopes that you might read it if you support fascists, you are a fascist, even though you aren't doing fascism. Someone who votes for Hitler, even though they aren't doing fascism, is a fascist.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    By your logic Framework is fascist. Is that's what you are saying?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    Framework is a company. But yes, supporting an open fascist is a bad thing (I cannot believe this needs saying), even if s company does it, which is why people are so upset about it.

    I feel like you've come around to the point that DHH is a fascist. That's good to see at least.

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