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Framework founder says that ‘personal computing as we know it is dead’ — vows to keep building ‘computers that you can own at the deepest level’ (www.tomshardware.com)
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You will own nothing and be happy about it.

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[–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

Is the bootloader locked like on iOS devices? If not, there’s probably a chance it can eventually run Asahi

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    No, but Asahi Linux works only for M1 and M2 as of now. They need to reverse engineer a lot and want to get it working there well enough before even attempting M3. The Apple Neo is neither of those, it is an A18 Pro. Entirely different SOC.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    “Entirely different” is a bit of a stretch. It’s about as close as you can get in this world without relabeling it. It’s built on the same architecture, same manufacturing processes, its just a different number of cores with different priorities for phone efficiency.

    When Apple piloted the switch to Apple silicon, it sent developers a Mac mini with an iPhone chip in it before they released the M1. This is that exact same thing, but newer.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Yes the language was a bit colourful but the point remains.

    M1/M2 and A18 Pro are not the same and Asahi, which is available for M1 and M2 cannot just run on an A18 Pro: https://github.com/rusch95/asahi_neo

    I thought you'd also need adaptations of your drivers for an A18 Pro compared to an M4 but maybe I was mistaken there. Certainly M1 and M2 compatibility does not suffice.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    For sure, but I bet some work can be done to allow it to work on the A18 Pro down the line. Maybe.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Maybe, it would be cool for sure. I was playing for a moment to get Apple silicon for Asahi, because it is such a great power efficient hardware. But even where Asahi is supported, for M1 and M2 it is still with some limitations. I opted for a Ryzen 395+ instead and get the full choice for Linux instead.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Probably eventually, so not right now. And it’s not a certainty though, M3 and 4 aren’t even fully supported they are missing GPU acceleration. Don’t buy a Neo today on the hope of running Asahi on it someday.

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