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[+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -34 points 4 months ago* (3 children) claming the attack on the 7. was a genocide is laughably false. I linked a source (Well, a wiki article which itself link sources). You spew bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 months ago (1 child) you linked the wikipedia article. it's allegations. if you had read it you would first notice that the allegations are about "intent" and genocide. As the power imbalance is laughably. The empire long called the rebellion murderes with genocidal intent. When the rebellion hit what they could, the empire killed their own to avoid hostages. The empire then told all that the rebels had murdered babies and made up other lies to make the rebels look bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -23 points 4 months ago* (1 child) it’s allegations. So are the current allegations against Israel, right? To be more than allegations, there would have to be a ICC judgement in either case, I think? As the power imbalance is laughably. Just because you are laughably weak, it does not mean you can't do evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 months ago (1 child) lol. if its a genocide then US has done one just now when bombing a school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Palestine?wprov=sfla1 "uhm palestinians can do gencide too, i promise they are evil tooo" lol. imagine being a shill for evil nazi empire 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -20 points 4 months ago (1 child) Do you even know what a logical argument is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (2 children) logic is a feeling, and is just as good a basis for argumentation as anger is. also. I support hamas. I would have been worse than them if I had to grow up in concentration camp gaza and see the world do nothing. seeing the zionists kill our children, steal our water, demolish homes and wells and kill crops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -8 points 4 months ago logic is a feeling Lmao permalink fedilink source parent [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -18 points 4 months ago (3 children) also. I support hamas. Ah, you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) and you just sit on the sidelines saying "uhm actsjually both sides bad" Terrorist is just the other side of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -14 points 4 months ago (1 child) “uhm actsjually both sides bad” I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified... I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. And you're obviously ok with genocide, apartheid, and settler-colonialism. In comparison to that, "terrorism" isn't that bad. Especially when it's only "terrorism" when the victims fight back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Thought terminating cliche, nothing unexpected from this user. "I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at scary terrorism*" *Terrorism is when brown people fight back permalink fedilink source parent [–] ignotum@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago A wiki page listing people who have called it a genocide doesn't exactly prove that it was one, and regardless the israelis have long been oppressing the people in gaza, including illegally capturing land by force for many years, so them striking back would be less a genocide and more an act of war, a warcrime in this instance as they largely attacked civillians, but so does israel which is why both the leader of hamas and israel are wanted war criminals It's like saying the slave revolts in ancient rome were genocides because the slaves were attacking romans, who else were they supposed to attack? And could you really blame them for striking back at their oppressors? Ideally it would have been resolved peacefully but the international community turned a blind eye to what was happening, and israel sure as hell wasn't about to stop out of the kindness of their heart permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 months ago (1 child) “Gaza did a genocide in Israel” is actually fucking insane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago It's not insane, it's a rhetorical tactic. "OK, fine, Israel is doing a genocide - but they did it to us first!". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 months ago (1 child) you linked the wikipedia article. it's allegations. if you had read it you would first notice that the allegations are about "intent" and genocide. As the power imbalance is laughably. The empire long called the rebellion murderes with genocidal intent. When the rebellion hit what they could, the empire killed their own to avoid hostages. The empire then told all that the rebels had murdered babies and made up other lies to make the rebels look bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -23 points 4 months ago* (1 child) it’s allegations. So are the current allegations against Israel, right? To be more than allegations, there would have to be a ICC judgement in either case, I think? As the power imbalance is laughably. Just because you are laughably weak, it does not mean you can't do evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 months ago (1 child) lol. if its a genocide then US has done one just now when bombing a school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Palestine?wprov=sfla1 "uhm palestinians can do gencide too, i promise they are evil tooo" lol. imagine being a shill for evil nazi empire 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -20 points 4 months ago (1 child) Do you even know what a logical argument is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (2 children) logic is a feeling, and is just as good a basis for argumentation as anger is. also. I support hamas. I would have been worse than them if I had to grow up in concentration camp gaza and see the world do nothing. seeing the zionists kill our children, steal our water, demolish homes and wells and kill crops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -8 points 4 months ago logic is a feeling Lmao permalink fedilink source parent [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -18 points 4 months ago (3 children) also. I support hamas. Ah, you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) and you just sit on the sidelines saying "uhm actsjually both sides bad" Terrorist is just the other side of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -14 points 4 months ago (1 child) “uhm actsjually both sides bad” I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified... I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. And you're obviously ok with genocide, apartheid, and settler-colonialism. In comparison to that, "terrorism" isn't that bad. Especially when it's only "terrorism" when the victims fight back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Thought terminating cliche, nothing unexpected from this user. "I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at scary terrorism*" *Terrorism is when brown people fight back permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -23 points 4 months ago* (1 child) it’s allegations. So are the current allegations against Israel, right? To be more than allegations, there would have to be a ICC judgement in either case, I think? As the power imbalance is laughably. Just because you are laughably weak, it does not mean you can't do evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 months ago (1 child) lol. if its a genocide then US has done one just now when bombing a school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Palestine?wprov=sfla1 "uhm palestinians can do gencide too, i promise they are evil tooo" lol. imagine being a shill for evil nazi empire 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -20 points 4 months ago (1 child) Do you even know what a logical argument is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (2 children) logic is a feeling, and is just as good a basis for argumentation as anger is. also. I support hamas. I would have been worse than them if I had to grow up in concentration camp gaza and see the world do nothing. seeing the zionists kill our children, steal our water, demolish homes and wells and kill crops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -8 points 4 months ago logic is a feeling Lmao permalink fedilink source parent [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -18 points 4 months ago (3 children) also. I support hamas. Ah, you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) and you just sit on the sidelines saying "uhm actsjually both sides bad" Terrorist is just the other side of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -14 points 4 months ago (1 child) “uhm actsjually both sides bad” I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified... I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. And you're obviously ok with genocide, apartheid, and settler-colonialism. In comparison to that, "terrorism" isn't that bad. Especially when it's only "terrorism" when the victims fight back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Thought terminating cliche, nothing unexpected from this user. "I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at scary terrorism*" *Terrorism is when brown people fight back permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 months ago (1 child) lol. if its a genocide then US has done one just now when bombing a school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Palestine?wprov=sfla1 "uhm palestinians can do gencide too, i promise they are evil tooo" lol. imagine being a shill for evil nazi empire 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -20 points 4 months ago (1 child) Do you even know what a logical argument is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (2 children) logic is a feeling, and is just as good a basis for argumentation as anger is. also. I support hamas. I would have been worse than them if I had to grow up in concentration camp gaza and see the world do nothing. seeing the zionists kill our children, steal our water, demolish homes and wells and kill crops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -8 points 4 months ago logic is a feeling Lmao permalink fedilink source parent [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -18 points 4 months ago (3 children) also. I support hamas. Ah, you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) and you just sit on the sidelines saying "uhm actsjually both sides bad" Terrorist is just the other side of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -14 points 4 months ago (1 child) “uhm actsjually both sides bad” I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified... I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. And you're obviously ok with genocide, apartheid, and settler-colonialism. In comparison to that, "terrorism" isn't that bad. Especially when it's only "terrorism" when the victims fight back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Thought terminating cliche, nothing unexpected from this user. "I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at scary terrorism*" *Terrorism is when brown people fight back permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -20 points 4 months ago (1 child) Do you even know what a logical argument is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (2 children) logic is a feeling, and is just as good a basis for argumentation as anger is. also. I support hamas. I would have been worse than them if I had to grow up in concentration camp gaza and see the world do nothing. seeing the zionists kill our children, steal our water, demolish homes and wells and kill crops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -8 points 4 months ago logic is a feeling Lmao permalink fedilink source parent [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -18 points 4 months ago (3 children) also. I support hamas. Ah, you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) and you just sit on the sidelines saying "uhm actsjually both sides bad" Terrorist is just the other side of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -14 points 4 months ago (1 child) “uhm actsjually both sides bad” I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified... I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. And you're obviously ok with genocide, apartheid, and settler-colonialism. In comparison to that, "terrorism" isn't that bad. Especially when it's only "terrorism" when the victims fight back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Thought terminating cliche, nothing unexpected from this user. "I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at scary terrorism*" *Terrorism is when brown people fight back permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (2 children) logic is a feeling, and is just as good a basis for argumentation as anger is. also. I support hamas. I would have been worse than them if I had to grow up in concentration camp gaza and see the world do nothing. seeing the zionists kill our children, steal our water, demolish homes and wells and kill crops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -8 points 4 months ago logic is a feeling Lmao permalink fedilink source parent [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -18 points 4 months ago (3 children) also. I support hamas. Ah, you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) and you just sit on the sidelines saying "uhm actsjually both sides bad" Terrorist is just the other side of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -14 points 4 months ago (1 child) “uhm actsjually both sides bad” I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified... I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. And you're obviously ok with genocide, apartheid, and settler-colonialism. In comparison to that, "terrorism" isn't that bad. Especially when it's only "terrorism" when the victims fight back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Thought terminating cliche, nothing unexpected from this user. "I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at scary terrorism*" *Terrorism is when brown people fight back permalink fedilink source parent
[+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -8 points 4 months ago logic is a feeling Lmao permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -18 points 4 months ago (3 children) also. I support hamas. Ah, you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) and you just sit on the sidelines saying "uhm actsjually both sides bad" Terrorist is just the other side of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -14 points 4 months ago (1 child) “uhm actsjually both sides bad” I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified... I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. And you're obviously ok with genocide, apartheid, and settler-colonialism. In comparison to that, "terrorism" isn't that bad. Especially when it's only "terrorism" when the victims fight back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Thought terminating cliche, nothing unexpected from this user. "I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at scary terrorism*" *Terrorism is when brown people fight back permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) and you just sit on the sidelines saying "uhm actsjually both sides bad" Terrorist is just the other side of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -14 points 4 months ago (1 child) “uhm actsjually both sides bad” I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified... I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -14 points 4 months ago (1 child) “uhm actsjually both sides bad” I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified... I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (1 child) right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth. what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back? edit: to add and clarify. if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -10 points 4 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies. The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well. but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this. Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise. And you're obviously ok with genocide, apartheid, and settler-colonialism. In comparison to that, "terrorism" isn't that bad. Especially when it's only "terrorism" when the victims fight back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Thought terminating cliche, nothing unexpected from this user. "I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at scary terrorism*" *Terrorism is when brown people fight back permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago A wiki page listing people who have called it a genocide doesn't exactly prove that it was one, and regardless the israelis have long been oppressing the people in gaza, including illegally capturing land by force for many years, so them striking back would be less a genocide and more an act of war, a warcrime in this instance as they largely attacked civillians, but so does israel which is why both the leader of hamas and israel are wanted war criminals It's like saying the slave revolts in ancient rome were genocides because the slaves were attacking romans, who else were they supposed to attack? And could you really blame them for striking back at their oppressors? Ideally it would have been resolved peacefully but the international community turned a blind eye to what was happening, and israel sure as hell wasn't about to stop out of the kindness of their heart permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 months ago (1 child) “Gaza did a genocide in Israel” is actually fucking insane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago It's not insane, it's a rhetorical tactic. "OK, fine, Israel is doing a genocide - but they did it to us first!". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago It's not insane, it's a rhetorical tactic. "OK, fine, Israel is doing a genocide - but they did it to us first!". permalink fedilink source parent