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Why Is the NYT Editorial Board More Worried About Progressivism Than Fascism? | Common Dreams (www.commondreams.org)
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EDITED to note: I did not realize when I posted this that it was actually written in October, 2025 about an older NYT op-ed, because the complaint is exactly the same. Fresh off the current NYT article linked here, I happened to see this in the sidebar of the Common Dreams article about Saturday's (March 28, 2026) protests and assumed it was about the current NYT op-ed. My error. Thanks to @AmidFuror@fedia.io for pointing it out.

For those who haven't read it, this is the NYT article in question. I should note that the author gets thoroughly schooled in the comments:

A Challenge for ‘No Kings’ Protests, the Third Time Around -- by Jeremy W. Peters for the NYT

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[–] [S] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

I would be very interested in knowing more, and just so you know I'm not looking for an argument. Genuinely curious.

Plus, I can't be personally offended because this is the first time I've ever posted anything from there. The article caught my attention because it was a further exploration of all the comments skewering the NYT author for writing such a limp piece of "look away, nothing to see here" propaganda, so I thought I'd post.

If you don't want to say it publicly, hit my DMs. But I am genuinely interested.

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  • [+] -8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You don't have to ask me about the Fediverse, you're in it, mate.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I’m so glad we got this valuable feedback. You have a bad feeling and don’t want to talk about it? Just talk about it anyway, but cryptically and snippily!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The first thing to learn about the Fediverse is that FiniteBanjo is a lonely troll with no particular values. They just spew shit to get a rise out of people.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Its a victim complex, but you are also right about them standing for nothing.

    It wasn't always this way, but it comes down to them seeing the role of everyone as being sheepdogs for the DNC. Its impossible for them to understand how and why the DNC failed in 2024, and it severely affected them. They really broke down over the previous two years as their basic thesis for how politics works collapsed. The future has been hard on them, and its been a sad transformation. Its like watching someone develop schizophrenia, or watching an elderly relative develop dementia. Reality went one direction, and they've refused to go along.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Divisive left-leaning political articles that shame other journalists come in two flavors: people in the USA who hate Trump, and people outside of the USA who worked hard to get Trump into the white house.

    Tankies are notorious for attempting to co-opt any movement which has a chance of radicalizing people into antidemocratic views, violence, destruction, or just general liability to US security. Like when they plotted to replace MLK Jr. with their own figureheads in the civil rights movement, and also at one point plotted to kill him by utilizing the KKK, called Operation PANDORA ( операция «ПАНДОРА» ) for just one example, according to ex-soviet intelligence officer Vasili Mitrokhin.

    I have yet to see one shifty article from Common Dreams, but if I do then at that time it will not surprise me.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Thank you for this response. It is exactly what I was interested in understanding. I'm not interested in journalist shaming through critical op-eds, and I did not see this article in that light. I saw it as NYT shaming, and I'm not alone because the comments on the NYT piece I linked are filled with the exact same ideas.

    Also, you should know that it has been pointed out to me that this Common Dreams article I posted is actually from last October: I saw it on a sidebar for Saturday's march, but it was so au courant to the latest tepid NYT coverage that I mistakenly assumed that that was the NYT article it was talking about, and even linked it. (I have edited the post body to correct my error.)

    No, it's that over multiple No Kings turnouts the NYT has never changed its game: the criticisms it makes in October are just as applicable to NYT coverage of No Kings today. That's why I didn't spot it. And NYT does it across the board, editorializing headlines and minimizing counts, to the point I just switch to international reporting to get the real story on No Kings, ICE, and anything that looks like real resistance.

    I also did not downvote either of your comments: I asked a question, you answered it, fair enough. But this is the one I was looking for.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    I put Common Dreams in the same category as WSWS and Jacobin. Only one of those is officially aligned with a political party, as far as I can tell, but they all write the same things.

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