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How anyone thinks they are productive with llm tools is baffling (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 4 months ago* by to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world
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It has to be pure ignorance.

I only have used my works stupid llm tool a few times (hey, I have to give it a chance and actually try it before I form opinions)

Holy shit it's bad. Every single time I use it I waste hours. Even simple tasks, it gets details wrong. I correct it constantly. Then I come back a couple months later, open the same module to do the same task, it gets it wrong again.

These aren't even tools. They're just shit. An idiot intern is better.

Its so angering people think this trash is good. Get ready for a lot of buildings and bridges to collapse because of young engineers trusting a slop machine to be accurate on details. We will look back on this as the worst era in computing.

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[–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

An idiot intern is better.

Well, 100% because the intern WILL eventually learn. That's the entire difference. It won't be about adjusting the prompt, or add yet another layer of "reasoning", or wait for the next "version" with a different code name an .1% larger dataset. No, you'll point to the intern they did a mistake, try not calling them an idiot, explain WHY it's wrong, optionally explain how to do it right, THEN the next time they'll avoid it or fix it after.

That's the entire point of having an intern : initially they suck BUT as you train them, they don't! Meanwhile an LLM, despite technical jargon hijacked by the marketing department, they don't "learn" (from machine learning) or train (from "training dataset") or have "neurons" (from "artificial neural networks") rather it's just statistics on the next most probable world, sounding right with 0 "reasoning".

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Had a person a few years back who would never ever learn.

    In fact, a way I have expressed my opinion of LLM is that it is like working with that useless guy, except at least faster.

    Based on my experience, the broader company is chock full of the never learn developers and I suppose I can see why they see value in the LLM, but either way their product sucks and no one likes them.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    You're so right .

    And if the person sucks that bad, get rid of them

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, but the same bad management that keeps thinking LLMs are magic are the same bad management that kept that guy around.

    Every interaction that guy had where a senior tech ever dared to say he was useless ultimately landed the senior tech in hot water with management, as they claim "he says you aren't providing what he needs to suceed, that he is very skilled and willing to work, but you never told him how or gave him access or (a million other excuses that were generally lies)".

    After a way too long career with us, he finally overplayed his hand by making the same old claims to the manager about no one giving him what he needed to work. Except he forgot that this time, the manager himself was the one who had been directing him and so he accidentally was accusing the manager of lying to himself.

    Finally, the only person with credibility to the manager was on the receiving end of this guys grift.

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