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[–] TheIvoryTower@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 child) To be fair, I live in a country where you can vote for a 3rd or 4th or 5th party and your vote still counts, because that's how democracy should work. In the US, I would probably be considered one of my 'non-voters'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) In the US you would be considered a nuisance by the politicians of both established parties for feebly trying to disrupt their plan to usher in fascism under the guise of free choice. We're not going to be able to work the sides against each other, because that's like trying to call out from the audience of a play to try to influence how the story ends. Their actions are designed to influence us, not the other way around. The only way voting helps in the US is to buy time to coordinate the revolution while Democrats are still playing the role of the idiot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) We’re not going to be able to work the sides against each other, because that’s like trying to call out from the audience of a play to try to influence how the story ends True, but you can influence the ending of a play by going backstage and putting on a costume. In America they call that a "primary" and it's how Zohran Mamdani became the mayor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, but just because you put on a costume and go backstage that doesn't mean you'll get a lead role in the play, or even a role at all. I do vote in my primaries, and I'm very hopeful of Mamdani, especially with help from AOC and Bernie, but I can't help but feel like I'm being tricked into pacificity; I picture a scenario were a few outspoken antagonists are allowed a place on the stage only to give the like-minded audience hope, but are never given a plot-relevant role. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I think it's a big mistake to equate hope with inaction. Hope should spur you to act more. Don't listen to these doomers who want you to do nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) When I say "hope" I mean "hope that things will resolve themselves without me having to do anything," which is what nearly every left-leaning person I know in real life is hoping. It certainly doesn't spur very many people to act more. They see Mamdani as "the world is healing," which just means "great, I don't need to change my behavior at all!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're in a weird bubble. I know a New Yorker who volunteered for Zohran's campaign and showed up to protest Luigi's incarceration when he went to court. They're a communist. They're fighting for a better world and hope is making them fight harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 point 4 months ago That's certainly good to hear. I hope that people are indeed taking this seriously, even as my own sphere never stopped claiming that Trump's downfall was inevitable if we just keep our heads down and wait it out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) In the US you would be considered a nuisance by the politicians of both established parties for feebly trying to disrupt their plan to usher in fascism under the guise of free choice. We're not going to be able to work the sides against each other, because that's like trying to call out from the audience of a play to try to influence how the story ends. Their actions are designed to influence us, not the other way around. The only way voting helps in the US is to buy time to coordinate the revolution while Democrats are still playing the role of the idiot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) We’re not going to be able to work the sides against each other, because that’s like trying to call out from the audience of a play to try to influence how the story ends True, but you can influence the ending of a play by going backstage and putting on a costume. In America they call that a "primary" and it's how Zohran Mamdani became the mayor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, but just because you put on a costume and go backstage that doesn't mean you'll get a lead role in the play, or even a role at all. I do vote in my primaries, and I'm very hopeful of Mamdani, especially with help from AOC and Bernie, but I can't help but feel like I'm being tricked into pacificity; I picture a scenario were a few outspoken antagonists are allowed a place on the stage only to give the like-minded audience hope, but are never given a plot-relevant role. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I think it's a big mistake to equate hope with inaction. Hope should spur you to act more. Don't listen to these doomers who want you to do nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) When I say "hope" I mean "hope that things will resolve themselves without me having to do anything," which is what nearly every left-leaning person I know in real life is hoping. It certainly doesn't spur very many people to act more. They see Mamdani as "the world is healing," which just means "great, I don't need to change my behavior at all!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're in a weird bubble. I know a New Yorker who volunteered for Zohran's campaign and showed up to protest Luigi's incarceration when he went to court. They're a communist. They're fighting for a better world and hope is making them fight harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 point 4 months ago That's certainly good to hear. I hope that people are indeed taking this seriously, even as my own sphere never stopped claiming that Trump's downfall was inevitable if we just keep our heads down and wait it out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) We’re not going to be able to work the sides against each other, because that’s like trying to call out from the audience of a play to try to influence how the story ends True, but you can influence the ending of a play by going backstage and putting on a costume. In America they call that a "primary" and it's how Zohran Mamdani became the mayor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, but just because you put on a costume and go backstage that doesn't mean you'll get a lead role in the play, or even a role at all. I do vote in my primaries, and I'm very hopeful of Mamdani, especially with help from AOC and Bernie, but I can't help but feel like I'm being tricked into pacificity; I picture a scenario were a few outspoken antagonists are allowed a place on the stage only to give the like-minded audience hope, but are never given a plot-relevant role. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I think it's a big mistake to equate hope with inaction. Hope should spur you to act more. Don't listen to these doomers who want you to do nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) When I say "hope" I mean "hope that things will resolve themselves without me having to do anything," which is what nearly every left-leaning person I know in real life is hoping. It certainly doesn't spur very many people to act more. They see Mamdani as "the world is healing," which just means "great, I don't need to change my behavior at all!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're in a weird bubble. I know a New Yorker who volunteered for Zohran's campaign and showed up to protest Luigi's incarceration when he went to court. They're a communist. They're fighting for a better world and hope is making them fight harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 point 4 months ago That's certainly good to hear. I hope that people are indeed taking this seriously, even as my own sphere never stopped claiming that Trump's downfall was inevitable if we just keep our heads down and wait it out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, but just because you put on a costume and go backstage that doesn't mean you'll get a lead role in the play, or even a role at all. I do vote in my primaries, and I'm very hopeful of Mamdani, especially with help from AOC and Bernie, but I can't help but feel like I'm being tricked into pacificity; I picture a scenario were a few outspoken antagonists are allowed a place on the stage only to give the like-minded audience hope, but are never given a plot-relevant role. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I think it's a big mistake to equate hope with inaction. Hope should spur you to act more. Don't listen to these doomers who want you to do nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) When I say "hope" I mean "hope that things will resolve themselves without me having to do anything," which is what nearly every left-leaning person I know in real life is hoping. It certainly doesn't spur very many people to act more. They see Mamdani as "the world is healing," which just means "great, I don't need to change my behavior at all!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're in a weird bubble. I know a New Yorker who volunteered for Zohran's campaign and showed up to protest Luigi's incarceration when he went to court. They're a communist. They're fighting for a better world and hope is making them fight harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 point 4 months ago That's certainly good to hear. I hope that people are indeed taking this seriously, even as my own sphere never stopped claiming that Trump's downfall was inevitable if we just keep our heads down and wait it out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I think it's a big mistake to equate hope with inaction. Hope should spur you to act more. Don't listen to these doomers who want you to do nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) When I say "hope" I mean "hope that things will resolve themselves without me having to do anything," which is what nearly every left-leaning person I know in real life is hoping. It certainly doesn't spur very many people to act more. They see Mamdani as "the world is healing," which just means "great, I don't need to change my behavior at all!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're in a weird bubble. I know a New Yorker who volunteered for Zohran's campaign and showed up to protest Luigi's incarceration when he went to court. They're a communist. They're fighting for a better world and hope is making them fight harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 point 4 months ago That's certainly good to hear. I hope that people are indeed taking this seriously, even as my own sphere never stopped claiming that Trump's downfall was inevitable if we just keep our heads down and wait it out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) When I say "hope" I mean "hope that things will resolve themselves without me having to do anything," which is what nearly every left-leaning person I know in real life is hoping. It certainly doesn't spur very many people to act more. They see Mamdani as "the world is healing," which just means "great, I don't need to change my behavior at all!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're in a weird bubble. I know a New Yorker who volunteered for Zohran's campaign and showed up to protest Luigi's incarceration when he went to court. They're a communist. They're fighting for a better world and hope is making them fight harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 point 4 months ago That's certainly good to hear. I hope that people are indeed taking this seriously, even as my own sphere never stopped claiming that Trump's downfall was inevitable if we just keep our heads down and wait it out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're in a weird bubble. I know a New Yorker who volunteered for Zohran's campaign and showed up to protest Luigi's incarceration when he went to court. They're a communist. They're fighting for a better world and hope is making them fight harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 point 4 months ago That's certainly good to hear. I hope that people are indeed taking this seriously, even as my own sphere never stopped claiming that Trump's downfall was inevitable if we just keep our heads down and wait it out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 point 4 months ago That's certainly good to hear. I hope that people are indeed taking this seriously, even as my own sphere never stopped claiming that Trump's downfall was inevitable if we just keep our heads down and wait it out. permalink fedilink source parent
