▲ 1925 ▼ Dumb glasses (lemmy.world) submitted 4 months ago by gedaliyah@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 438 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] lumen@feddit.nl -31 points 4 months ago (3 children) No they don’t. I might actually go film on the sidewalk just outside your home, and there would be nothing at all you can do about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lumen@feddit.nl -23 points 4 months ago (3 children) I don't appreciate the threat of violence. I won't surrender my property to you, you will not destroy my property, you will not hurt me without me defending myself, and your attorney will not bend the law for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) You really want these glasses, don't you? You're smart enough to debate the hypothetical, but miss the obvious point that new things will not be regulated as they should be, so the law doesn't function as it should in this situation. You cling tightly to the law as if it's doing what it's meant to do, when we both know you'd be taking advantage of the lack of laws for no clear benefit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lumen@feddit.nl -11 points 4 months ago (2 children) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago What part didn't you understand? permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago Actually insufferable. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago Let's say hypothetically that he assaults you, you sue him, then he raises 200k$ for his defense through crowdfunding because I bet the majority of people don't want creeps to record them secretly. You're still confident in your odds? permalink fedilink source parent [–] nile_istic@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago I think the real problem is that you don't seem to realize/care how gross and rapey you sound. That's... maybe something to work on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago This may be perfectly legal but it is absolutely a dick move and people will HATE you for it. The are so many scenarios where perfectly reasonable people will find this behavior extremely unsettling, at best, and possibly threatening. And you are incorrect in assuming that “there would be nothing [the subject] can do about it “. In the real world there are plenty of people who will risk an assault charge to deal with someone being a disrespectful dick, and many more who will act if they feel threatened. Now, might doesn’t make right, but are you right? Going against social norms and risking extrajudicial retaliation to fight injustice is commendable. But this isn’t sitting at a lunch counter during segregation or protesting at Stonewall. In a world where 1 in 3 women will be stalked in her lifetime ( in the US according to the Justice Department), why is this the hill you want to die upon? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lumen@feddit.nl -23 points 4 months ago (3 children) I don't appreciate the threat of violence. I won't surrender my property to you, you will not destroy my property, you will not hurt me without me defending myself, and your attorney will not bend the law for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) You really want these glasses, don't you? You're smart enough to debate the hypothetical, but miss the obvious point that new things will not be regulated as they should be, so the law doesn't function as it should in this situation. You cling tightly to the law as if it's doing what it's meant to do, when we both know you'd be taking advantage of the lack of laws for no clear benefit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lumen@feddit.nl -11 points 4 months ago (2 children) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago What part didn't you understand? permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago Actually insufferable. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago Let's say hypothetically that he assaults you, you sue him, then he raises 200k$ for his defense through crowdfunding because I bet the majority of people don't want creeps to record them secretly. You're still confident in your odds? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lumen@feddit.nl -23 points 4 months ago (3 children) I don't appreciate the threat of violence. I won't surrender my property to you, you will not destroy my property, you will not hurt me without me defending myself, and your attorney will not bend the law for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) You really want these glasses, don't you? You're smart enough to debate the hypothetical, but miss the obvious point that new things will not be regulated as they should be, so the law doesn't function as it should in this situation. You cling tightly to the law as if it's doing what it's meant to do, when we both know you'd be taking advantage of the lack of laws for no clear benefit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lumen@feddit.nl -11 points 4 months ago (2 children) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago What part didn't you understand? permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago Actually insufferable. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago Let's say hypothetically that he assaults you, you sue him, then he raises 200k$ for his defense through crowdfunding because I bet the majority of people don't want creeps to record them secretly. You're still confident in your odds? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) You really want these glasses, don't you? You're smart enough to debate the hypothetical, but miss the obvious point that new things will not be regulated as they should be, so the law doesn't function as it should in this situation. You cling tightly to the law as if it's doing what it's meant to do, when we both know you'd be taking advantage of the lack of laws for no clear benefit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lumen@feddit.nl -11 points 4 months ago (2 children) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago What part didn't you understand? permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago Actually insufferable. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lumen@feddit.nl -11 points 4 months ago (2 children) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago What part didn't you understand? permalink fedilink source parent [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago Actually insufferable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago What part didn't you understand? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago Let's say hypothetically that he assaults you, you sue him, then he raises 200k$ for his defense through crowdfunding because I bet the majority of people don't want creeps to record them secretly. You're still confident in your odds? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nile_istic@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago I think the real problem is that you don't seem to realize/care how gross and rapey you sound. That's... maybe something to work on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago This may be perfectly legal but it is absolutely a dick move and people will HATE you for it. The are so many scenarios where perfectly reasonable people will find this behavior extremely unsettling, at best, and possibly threatening. And you are incorrect in assuming that “there would be nothing [the subject] can do about it “. In the real world there are plenty of people who will risk an assault charge to deal with someone being a disrespectful dick, and many more who will act if they feel threatened. Now, might doesn’t make right, but are you right? Going against social norms and risking extrajudicial retaliation to fight injustice is commendable. But this isn’t sitting at a lunch counter during segregation or protesting at Stonewall. In a world where 1 in 3 women will be stalked in her lifetime ( in the US according to the Justice Department), why is this the hill you want to die upon? permalink fedilink source parent