▲ 20 ▼ Jacob Rees-Mogg says HS2 money should be used to scrap inheritance tax (leftfootforward.org) submitted 2 years ago by Syldon@feddit.uk to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk 25 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Syldon@feddit.uk [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It looks to me like it is the estate of the person who died. I think this is because tax is paid before it is passed on to the beneficiary. I am not a legal expert. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frog@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I concur that it's on the value of the estate of the person who died. But there is also this: "The standard Inheritance Tax rate is 40%. It’s only charged on the part of your estate that’s above the threshold." And given the threshold rises to £500k when it's between direct family (parent to child, etc), and you're only paying on the value above the threshold... you have to inherit a pretty big house from your parents to even have to pay inheritance tax. Say it was a £550k house, so there's tax to pay on the £50k over half a million. 40% of that comes out to £20k, which sure, is a lot of money... but getting a little £20k mortgage on that massive £550k house you just inherited would absolutely be viable. I think the overlap of people with family wealthy enough to have £500k+ houses, but who themselves are so low paid and have such a low credit score that a tiny mortgage is literally impossible, is really, really low. Like there could be a few edge cases, but I'd be willing to bet the majority of people who are in a position to inherit a £550k house are also in a position where a £20k mortgage would not be hard to arrange, especially given they now have a high value asset to secure the mortgage against. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Syldon@feddit.uk [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) There won't be many banks who would not mortgage a £550 asset for £20k. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frog@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Exactly. You'd have to be really, really untrustworthy, with an appalling credit score and no income, and probably a criminal record for fraud, before a bank wouldn't do that mortgage. So paying inheritance tax on a high value asset isn't impossible if you don't have the actual cash in the bank at the time of your relative's death. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frog@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I concur that it's on the value of the estate of the person who died. But there is also this: "The standard Inheritance Tax rate is 40%. It’s only charged on the part of your estate that’s above the threshold." And given the threshold rises to £500k when it's between direct family (parent to child, etc), and you're only paying on the value above the threshold... you have to inherit a pretty big house from your parents to even have to pay inheritance tax. Say it was a £550k house, so there's tax to pay on the £50k over half a million. 40% of that comes out to £20k, which sure, is a lot of money... but getting a little £20k mortgage on that massive £550k house you just inherited would absolutely be viable. I think the overlap of people with family wealthy enough to have £500k+ houses, but who themselves are so low paid and have such a low credit score that a tiny mortgage is literally impossible, is really, really low. Like there could be a few edge cases, but I'd be willing to bet the majority of people who are in a position to inherit a £550k house are also in a position where a £20k mortgage would not be hard to arrange, especially given they now have a high value asset to secure the mortgage against. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Syldon@feddit.uk [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) There won't be many banks who would not mortgage a £550 asset for £20k. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frog@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Exactly. You'd have to be really, really untrustworthy, with an appalling credit score and no income, and probably a criminal record for fraud, before a bank wouldn't do that mortgage. So paying inheritance tax on a high value asset isn't impossible if you don't have the actual cash in the bank at the time of your relative's death. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Syldon@feddit.uk [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) There won't be many banks who would not mortgage a £550 asset for £20k. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frog@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Exactly. You'd have to be really, really untrustworthy, with an appalling credit score and no income, and probably a criminal record for fraud, before a bank wouldn't do that mortgage. So paying inheritance tax on a high value asset isn't impossible if you don't have the actual cash in the bank at the time of your relative's death. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frog@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Exactly. You'd have to be really, really untrustworthy, with an appalling credit score and no income, and probably a criminal record for fraud, before a bank wouldn't do that mortgage. So paying inheritance tax on a high value asset isn't impossible if you don't have the actual cash in the bank at the time of your relative's death. permalink fedilink source parent