▲ 128 ▼ Trump demands Iran’s ‘unconditional surrender’ as war upends global markets (www.straitstimes.com) submitted 5 months ago* by RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to c/world@lemmy.world 21 comments fedilink hide all child comments Please post memes in comments. :)
[–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 65 points 5 months ago (1 child) Unconditional surrender of what exactly? permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] evenglow@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (2 children) Everything. An unconditional surrender is a surrender in which no guarantees, reassurances, or promises (i.e., conditions) are given to the surrendering party. It is often demanded with the threat of complete destruction, extermination or annihilation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 27 points 5 months ago* (2 children) How can you unconditionally surrender a war you didn't start. Makes this a war of conquest and the fact that Congress is rolling over on it is disgusting. Every vote to continue should have the Congress person tried for treason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] evenglow@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago How do you unconditionally surrender your wallet at gunpoint? permalink fedilink source parent [–] theherk@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) The same way you do in one you did start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 12 points 5 months ago* (2 children) I'm just surprised their articulating it that way because it make this a war of conquest in no uncertain terms, all while they've been trying to soften their language by using words like "mission" and "operation" makes it all the more disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theherk@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago I’m not disputing that. I’m just saying when the mongol horde arrived, the besieged cities didn’t say “How are we supposed to surrender? You attacked us.” permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago I don't think this is any new PR strategy by the American empire, lol, it's just that without even the pretense, without some previous narratives that made the average American support death and destruction, this entire scenario is obviously ridiculous and everyone can see it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's basically one step away from annexation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* The entire world should be panicking and working together on a plan because there's nothing stopping him from destabilizing and annexing other countries permalink fedilink source parent
[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (2 children) Everything. An unconditional surrender is a surrender in which no guarantees, reassurances, or promises (i.e., conditions) are given to the surrendering party. It is often demanded with the threat of complete destruction, extermination or annihilation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 27 points 5 months ago* (2 children) How can you unconditionally surrender a war you didn't start. Makes this a war of conquest and the fact that Congress is rolling over on it is disgusting. Every vote to continue should have the Congress person tried for treason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] evenglow@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago How do you unconditionally surrender your wallet at gunpoint? permalink fedilink source parent [–] theherk@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) The same way you do in one you did start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 12 points 5 months ago* (2 children) I'm just surprised their articulating it that way because it make this a war of conquest in no uncertain terms, all while they've been trying to soften their language by using words like "mission" and "operation" makes it all the more disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theherk@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago I’m not disputing that. I’m just saying when the mongol horde arrived, the besieged cities didn’t say “How are we supposed to surrender? You attacked us.” permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago I don't think this is any new PR strategy by the American empire, lol, it's just that without even the pretense, without some previous narratives that made the average American support death and destruction, this entire scenario is obviously ridiculous and everyone can see it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's basically one step away from annexation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* The entire world should be panicking and working together on a plan because there's nothing stopping him from destabilizing and annexing other countries permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 27 points 5 months ago* (2 children) How can you unconditionally surrender a war you didn't start. Makes this a war of conquest and the fact that Congress is rolling over on it is disgusting. Every vote to continue should have the Congress person tried for treason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] evenglow@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago How do you unconditionally surrender your wallet at gunpoint? permalink fedilink source parent [–] theherk@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) The same way you do in one you did start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 12 points 5 months ago* (2 children) I'm just surprised their articulating it that way because it make this a war of conquest in no uncertain terms, all while they've been trying to soften their language by using words like "mission" and "operation" makes it all the more disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theherk@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago I’m not disputing that. I’m just saying when the mongol horde arrived, the besieged cities didn’t say “How are we supposed to surrender? You attacked us.” permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago I don't think this is any new PR strategy by the American empire, lol, it's just that without even the pretense, without some previous narratives that made the average American support death and destruction, this entire scenario is obviously ridiculous and everyone can see it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago How do you unconditionally surrender your wallet at gunpoint? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theherk@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) The same way you do in one you did start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 12 points 5 months ago* (2 children) I'm just surprised their articulating it that way because it make this a war of conquest in no uncertain terms, all while they've been trying to soften their language by using words like "mission" and "operation" makes it all the more disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theherk@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago I’m not disputing that. I’m just saying when the mongol horde arrived, the besieged cities didn’t say “How are we supposed to surrender? You attacked us.” permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago I don't think this is any new PR strategy by the American empire, lol, it's just that without even the pretense, without some previous narratives that made the average American support death and destruction, this entire scenario is obviously ridiculous and everyone can see it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 12 points 5 months ago* (2 children) I'm just surprised their articulating it that way because it make this a war of conquest in no uncertain terms, all while they've been trying to soften their language by using words like "mission" and "operation" makes it all the more disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theherk@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago I’m not disputing that. I’m just saying when the mongol horde arrived, the besieged cities didn’t say “How are we supposed to surrender? You attacked us.” permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago I don't think this is any new PR strategy by the American empire, lol, it's just that without even the pretense, without some previous narratives that made the average American support death and destruction, this entire scenario is obviously ridiculous and everyone can see it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theherk@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago I’m not disputing that. I’m just saying when the mongol horde arrived, the besieged cities didn’t say “How are we supposed to surrender? You attacked us.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago I don't think this is any new PR strategy by the American empire, lol, it's just that without even the pretense, without some previous narratives that made the average American support death and destruction, this entire scenario is obviously ridiculous and everyone can see it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's basically one step away from annexation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* The entire world should be panicking and working together on a plan because there's nothing stopping him from destabilizing and annexing other countries permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* The entire world should be panicking and working together on a plan because there's nothing stopping him from destabilizing and annexing other countries permalink fedilink source parent